Last call?

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#1Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu

Hi. I believe we are still shooting for a Nov 1 release, though without
reports of successful regression tests on more platforms I'm not sure we
can do that. I know that at least some of those listed below are the
active development platforms for some contributors, so those are
probably covered but I need confirmation. So, if you have a platform you
have tested or plan to have tested in the next few days please speak up.
Now. Or at least Soon :)

Here are the ones on the "currently supported" list (let me know if you
have something running on another platform. Any Ultrix people out there
still?):

_ AIX 4.1.x-4.2
_ BSDi
_ FreeBSD 2.2.x-3.x
_ NetBSD 1.3
_ NetBSD 1.3 NS32532
_ NetBSD 1.3 Sparc
_ NetBSD 1.3 VAX
_ DGUX 5.4R4.11 m88k
_ HPUX 10.20
_ IRIX 6.x
_ Digital 4.0
_ linux 2.0.x Alpha
x linux 2.0.x x86
_ linux 2.0.x Sparc
x mklinux PPC750
_ SCO
_ Solaris x86
_ Solaris 2.5.1-2.6 x86
_ SunOS 4.1.4 Sparc
x SVR4 MIPS
_ SVR4 4.4 m88k
x Unixware x86
x Windows NT

The porting info goes into the Admin Guide in the docs. I plan to freeze
that one last, a few days before release to give Bruce et al a chance to
polish the installation and release notes.

The other docs will need to freeze earlier to give me a chance to
generate hardcopy for v6.4. So the freeze schedule will be (again
assuming a Nov 1 release, and I'm probably not giving myself enough
time):

Oct 26: freeze Programmer's Guide and Developer's Guide
Oct 27: freeze User's Guide and reference pages
Oct 28: freeze Admin Guide
Oct 29-30: finish hardcopy, generate html

I will be out of town Oct 31-Nov 1, so need to finish a day or two
early. As it is, I should have frozen some docs by now to get this stuff
done.

So, if you have anything else to contribute or update for docs, SEND IT
IN NOW. Or at least let me know it is coming soon. Or it will have to
wait for v6.5...

TIA

- Tom

#2Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: [DOCS] Last call?

Here are the ones on the "currently supported" list (let me know if you
have something running on another platform. Any Ultrix people out there
still?):

Change:

_ BSDi

to

_ BSDI 3.x and 4.0

Also, the Windows NT item is of much interest. Can we report this as
working, and have a binary of 6.4 built at the time of the 6.4 release,
November 1? (I am CC'ing the NT person.)

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#3Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#2)
Re: [DOCS] Last call?

Change:

_ BSDi

to

_ BSDI 3.x and 4.0

The underscores meant that I don't know if the platform has been
regression tested yet. Exes meant I did. I was assuming that you had
already done BSDI (isn't that you're development platform?) and was
hoping to get a report from you saying to put an "x" for that one.

So the only platforms I've marked as being confirmed are NT, Unixware,
SVR4, mklinux, and linux. But I know there are others which are already
working, I'm just not certain exactly which ones...

- Tom

#4Terry Mackintosh
terry@terrym.com
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#3)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

Hi Tom and all

I did not know what the '_' and 'x' meant the first time, as I recall the
one for 'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown, I can do this for you, should
I grab the Bata2 or the latest snapshot?

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Thomas G. Lockhart wrote:

Change:

_ BSDi

to

_ BSDI 3.x and 4.0

The underscores meant that I don't know if the platform has been
regression tested yet. Exes meant I did. I was assuming that you had
already done BSDI (isn't that you're development platform?) and was
hoping to get a report from you saying to put an "x" for that one.

So the only platforms I've marked as being confirmed are NT, Unixware,
SVR4, mklinux, and linux. But I know there are others which are already
working, I'm just not certain exactly which ones...

- Tom

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#5Oliver Elphick
olly@lfix.co.uk
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#3)
Re: [DOCS] Last call?

"Thomas G. Lockhart" wrote:

So the only platforms I've marked as being confirmed are NT, Unixware,
SVR4, mklinux, and linux.

Tom, can you distinguish between linux with libc5 and with glibc (aka libc6)?

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#6Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Terry Mackintosh (#4)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

I did not know what the '_' and 'x' meant the first time, as I recall
the one for 'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown

Thanks Terry, but I've already got that one done (it's my development
platform). The Linux Alpha and Sparc need testing, which is probably
what you remember seeing...

- Tom

#7Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Oliver Elphick (#5)
Re: [DOCS] Last call?

can you distinguish between linux with libc5 and with glibc?

Yes, if necessary. I'm running glibc at work (with the RH 6.3.2 rpms)
and libc5 at home (with v6.4beta). I don't expect there to be any
significant differences; are you aware of any?

Also, I'm planning on doing a clean install of v6.4beta on my glibc
machine, so can verify it then.

Or are you just saying that we should mention both explicitly so that
people can know that it would work on their machine for sure?

- Tom

#8Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#7)
Re: [HACKERS] Last call?

My stuff is all in, as of yesterday. (BTW, I assume it's sufficient
to fix install.sgml, and that the text INSTALL file will be built from
that?)

Yes. And I'm going through install.sgml at this moment to freshen it up.
I'll commit changes in the next few minutes, and it would be great if
others (Tom and Bruce?) could take a look at it.

I'll try posting a new html version of things on the Postgres web site.

- Tom

#9Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#3)
Re: [DOCS] Last call?

Change:

_ BSDi

to

_ BSDI 3.x and 4.0

The underscores meant that I don't know if the platform has been
regression tested yet. Exes meant I did. I was assuming that you had
already done BSDI (isn't that you're development platform?) and was
hoping to get a report from you saying to put an "x" for that one.

So the only platforms I've marked as being confirmed are NT, Unixware,
SVR4, mklinux, and linux. But I know there are others which are already
working, I'm just not certain exactly which ones...

Oh, sorry. Put an X for BSDI.

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#10Brook Milligan
brook@trillium.NMSU.Edu
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Last call?

Here are the ones on the "currently supported" list (let me know if you
have something running on another platform. Any Ultrix people out there
still?):

x NetBSD 1.3.2/i386

I'm running on NetBSD 1.3.2/i386 and as of yesterday the regressions
all passed. I'm trying to redo them every few days to make sure
nothing creeps in so this should be a supported platform.

Cheers,
Brook

#11Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#8)
Re: [HACKERS] Last call?

I'll try posting a new html version of things on the Postgres web
site.

... which I've now done for the admin guide. This contains a chapter on
installation which is from the same source as the text-only version to
be put in INSTALL.

Could folks look it over and in particular make sure that it is an
acceptable substitute for what is now in INSTALL?

- Tom

#12Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#8)
Re: [HACKERS] Last call?

My stuff is all in, as of yesterday. (BTW, I assume it's sufficient
to fix install.sgml, and that the text INSTALL file will be built from
that?)

Yes. And I'm going through install.sgml at this moment to freshen it up.
I'll commit changes in the next few minutes, and it would be great if
others (Tom and Bruce?) could take a look at it.

I'll try posting a new html version of things on the Postgres web site.

- Tom

As far as I know, the INSTALL and sgml INSTALL are in sync. I have made
changes both places, and I don't think others have made changes.

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#13Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Last call?

x NetBSD 1.3.2/i386
I'm running on NetBSD 1.3.2/i386 and as of yesterday the regressions
all passed. I'm trying to redo them every few days to make sure
nothing creeps in so this should be a supported platform.

This is exactly what makes it a supported platform :)

- Tom

#14Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@alumni.caltech.edu
In reply to: Terry Mackintosh (#4)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown

Thanks Terry, but I've already got that one done

But Oliver was asking about glibc2 vs libc5. Do you happen to have a
glibc machine (RH 5.x?) available? If so we could use a direct report of
success since I'm still running RH4.2/libc5 for development...

- Tom

#15Taral
taral@mail.utexas.edu
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#14)
RE: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

I compiled it on RH 5.1... no problems.

Taral

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Sent: Sunday, October 25, 1998 12:08 PM
To: Terry Mackintosh; PostgreSQL-development
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown

Thanks Terry, but I've already got that one done

But Oliver was asking about glibc2 vs libc5. Do you happen to have a
glibc machine (RH 5.x?) available? If so we could use a direct report of
success since I'm still running RH4.2/libc5 for development...

- Tom

#16Egon Schmid
eschmid@stuttgart.netsurf.de
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#14)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

I'm sure Oliver runs a libc6 system. He is one of the debian core
developers.

-Egon

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Thomas G. Lockhart wrote:

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'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown

Thanks Terry, but I've already got that one done

But Oliver was asking about glibc2 vs libc5. Do you happen to have a
glibc machine (RH 5.x?) available? If so we could use a direct report of
success since I'm still running RH4.2/libc5 for development...

- Tom

#17Terry Mackintosh
terry@terrym.com
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#14)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

Hi Tom

Nope, RH4.2/libc5, same as you.
Still waiting for the dust to settle on the glibc thing:)

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Thomas G. Lockhart wrote:

'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown

Thanks Terry, but I've already got that one done

But Oliver was asking about glibc2 vs libc5. Do you happen to have a
glibc machine (RH 5.x?) available? If so we could use a direct report of
success since I'm still running RH4.2/libc5 for development...

- Tom

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#18Egon Schmid
eschmid@stuttgart.netsurf.de
In reply to: Terry Mackintosh (#17)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

I cannot believe, RH4.2 isn't a glibc2 system.

-Egon

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Terry Mackintosh wrote:

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Hi Tom

Nope, RH4.2/libc5, same as you.
Still waiting for the dust to settle on the glibc thing:)

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Thomas G. Lockhart wrote:

'Linux ix86' had an '_', or unknown

Thanks Terry, but I've already got that one done

But Oliver was asking about glibc2 vs libc5. Do you happen to have a
glibc machine (RH 5.x?) available? If so we could use a direct report of
success since I'm still running RH4.2/libc5 for development...

- Tom

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#19Thomas A. Szybist
szybist@boxhill.com
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: [HACKERS] Last call?

I just gave today's (Oct 25) snapshot a try on Sparc Linux.
Looks good except datetime. I'm getting failures due to this type
of thing:

regression=> SELECT ('today'::datetime );
?column?
----------------------------
Sun Oct 25 00:00:00 1998 EDT
(1 row)

regression=> SELECT ('tomorrow'::datetime - '1 day'::timespan);
?column?
----------------------------
Sun Oct 25 01:00:00 1998 EDT
(1 row)

I *think* this may because we're not too far into EST yet.
Sound good?

My machine is Kernel is 2.0.29. Libc 5.3.12.

Tom Szybist
szybist@boxhill.com

In message <3632A932.7FEB1733@alumni.caltech.edu>, "Thomas G. Lockhart" writes:

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Hi. I believe we are still shooting for a Nov 1 release, though without
reports of successful regression tests on more platforms I'm not sure we
can do that. I know that at least some of those listed below are the
active development platforms for some contributors, so those are
probably covered but I need confirmation. So, if you have a platform you
have tested or plan to have tested in the next few days please speak up.
Now. Or at least Soon :)

Here are the ones on the "currently supported" list (let me know if you
have something running on another platform. Any Ultrix people out there
still?):

_ AIX 4.1.x-4.2
_ BSDi
_ FreeBSD 2.2.x-3.x
_ NetBSD 1.3
_ NetBSD 1.3 NS32532
_ NetBSD 1.3 Sparc
_ NetBSD 1.3 VAX
_ DGUX 5.4R4.11 m88k
_ HPUX 10.20
_ IRIX 6.x
_ Digital 4.0
_ linux 2.0.x Alpha
x linux 2.0.x x86
_ linux 2.0.x Sparc
x mklinux PPC750
_ SCO
_ Solaris x86
_ Solaris 2.5.1-2.6 x86
_ SunOS 4.1.4 Sparc
x SVR4 MIPS
_ SVR4 4.4 m88k
x Unixware x86
x Windows NT

The porting info goes into the Admin Guide in the docs. I plan to freeze
that one last, a few days before release to give Bruce et al a chance to
polish the installation and release notes.

The other docs will need to freeze earlier to give me a chance to
generate hardcopy for v6.4. So the freeze schedule will be (again
assuming a Nov 1 release, and I'm probably not giving myself enough
time):

Oct 26: freeze Programmer's Guide and Developer's Guide
Oct 27: freeze User's Guide and reference pages
Oct 28: freeze Admin Guide
Oct 29-30: finish hardcopy, generate html

I will be out of town Oct 31-Nov 1, so need to finish a day or two
early. As it is, I should have frozen some docs by now to get this stuff
done.

So, if you have anything else to contribute or update for docs, SEND IT
IN NOW. Or at least let me know it is coming soon. Or it will have to
wait for v6.5...

TIA

- Tom

#20Oliver Elphick
olly@lfix.co.uk
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#7)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: [DOCS] Last call?

"Thomas G. Lockhart" wrote:

can you distinguish between linux with libc5 and with glibc?

Yes, if necessary. I'm running glibc at work (with the RH 6.3.2 rpms)
and libc5 at home (with v6.4beta). I don't expect there to be any
significant differences; are you aware of any?

No; there are minor textual differences in the math overflow messages
and, last time I tried, the geometry tests had differences of around
10 ^ -12.

...
Or are you just saying that we should mention both explicitly so that
people can know that it would work on their machine for sure?

Precisely.

The difference is such a major one that linux-libc5 and linux-glibc
should be regarded nearly as two different systems.
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#21Billy G. Allie
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#22Thomas Lockhart
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#23Thomas Lockhart
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#24Thomas Lockhart
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#25Thomas Lockhart
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