A question about ExplainOnePlan()

Started by Gurjeet Singhabout 19 years ago4 messages
#1Gurjeet Singh
singh.gurjeet@gmail.com

Hi All,

In ExplainOnePlan(), we are calling ExecutorStart() and ExecutorEnd()
even if we are not doing EXPLAIN ANALYZE. Whereas, ExecutorRun() is called
only if we are ANALYZEing.

Can we avoid calls to Executor{Start|End}() here, or is it necessary to
call them even for non-ANALYZE case?

Regards,

--
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#2Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Gurjeet Singh (#1)
Re: A question about ExplainOnePlan()

"Gurjeet Singh" <singh.gurjeet@gmail.com> writes:

In ExplainOnePlan(), we are calling ExecutorStart() and ExecutorEnd()
even if we are not doing EXPLAIN ANALYZE. Whereas, ExecutorRun() is called
only if we are ANALYZEing.

Can we avoid calls to Executor{Start|End}() here, or is it necessary to
call them even for non-ANALYZE case?

No; at least not unless you want to duplicate the permission-checking
machinery inside ExecutorStart. Otherwise EXPLAIN could be used to
obtain information about tables you're not supposed to be able to read
(for instance, the estimated number of rows matching a WHERE condition
could be sensitive information).

Also, you'd have to uglify explain.c quite a lot to be able to handle
the case of traversing a plan tree without a matching planstate tree.

regards, tom lane

#3Gurjeet Singh
singh.gurjeet@gmail.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)
Re: A question about ExplainOnePlan()

On 12/13/06, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

"Gurjeet Singh" <singh.gurjeet@gmail.com> writes:

Can we avoid calls to Executor{Start|End}() here, or is it necessary

to

call them even for non-ANALYZE case?

No; at least not unless you want to duplicate the permission-checking
machinery inside ExecutorStart.

I had seen the ExecCheckRTPerms() call inside InitPlan(), but didn't know
that we considered even the EXPLAIN output to be so sensitive.

Otherwise EXPLAIN could be used to

obtain information about tables you're not supposed to be able to read
(for instance, the estimated number of rows matching a WHERE condition
could be sensitive information).

Also, you'd have to uglify explain.c quite a lot to be able to handle
the case of traversing a plan tree without a matching planstate tree.

Thanks.

--
gurjeet[.singh]@EnterpriseDB.com
singh.gurjeet@{ gmail | hotmail | yahoo }.com

#4Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Gurjeet Singh (#3)
Re: A question about ExplainOnePlan()

"Gurjeet Singh" <singh.gurjeet@gmail.com> writes:

On 12/13/06, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

No; at least not unless you want to duplicate the permission-checking
machinery inside ExecutorStart.

I had seen the ExecCheckRTPerms() call inside InitPlan(), but didn't know
that we considered even the EXPLAIN output to be so sensitive.

It's the same reason why pg_statistic isn't publicly readable. The
standard example is that the min and max of an employee.salary column
are probably things that would be embarrassing to expose to everyone
in the company ...

regards, tom lane