Win32 timezone matching
When diagnosing a problem for a guy in the german channel (with Stefan
as mediator :P), we've found a case where the timezone information in
the registry seem to be empty for some timezones. The current timezone
matching code will abort scanning when it comes across one of these,
thus claiming it can't match the timezone, and reverting to GMT.
We've seen some reports prevously that looked like this, but never
really managed to get it diagnosed. Having checked the registry on
this machine, it appears to simply be that "Std" and "Dlt" are missing
from some entries.
The attach patch changes our scan to skip to the next timezone when
this happens, instead of aborting. The only downtime I can see from
this is that in case there are a *lot* of broken timezones (like "all
of them"), well log a lot of warnings. But it will only happen on
server startup, so I think it's ok.
Comments?
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Attachments:
win32_tzskip.patchapplication/octet-stream; name=win32_tzskip.patchDownload
commit faa045c5f75f90b93b9c73492a843c4a13198149
Author: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Date: Tue Apr 6 22:35:54 2010 +0200
Don't abort when we find one incorrect entry in the registry when
mapping timezones
diff --git a/src/timezone/pgtz.c b/src/timezone/pgtz.c
index bc135c8..9f2cc40 100644
--- a/src/timezone/pgtz.c
+++ b/src/timezone/pgtz.c
@@ -1094,7 +1094,7 @@ identify_system_timezone(void)
(errmsg_internal("could not query value for 'std' to identify Windows timezone \"%s\": %i",
keyname, (int) r)));
RegCloseKey(key);
- break;
+ continue; /* Proceed to look at the next timezone */
}
if (strcmp(tzname, zonename) == 0)
{
@@ -1111,7 +1111,7 @@ identify_system_timezone(void)
(errmsg_internal("could not query value for 'dlt' to identify Windows timezone \"%s\": %i",
keyname, (int) r)));
RegCloseKey(key);
- break;
+ continue; /* Proceed to look at the next timezone */
}
if (strcmp(tzname, zonename) == 0)
{
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
When diagnosing a problem for a guy in the german channel (with Stefan
as mediator :P), we've found a case where the timezone information in
the registry seem to be empty for some timezones. The current timezone
matching code will abort scanning when it comes across one of these,
thus claiming it can't match the timezone, and reverting to GMT.
We've seen some reports prevously that looked like this, but never
really managed to get it diagnosed. Having checked the registry on
this machine, it appears to simply be that "Std" and "Dlt" are missing
from some entries.
The attach patch changes our scan to skip to the next timezone when
this happens, instead of aborting. The only downtime I can see from
this is that in case there are a *lot* of broken timezones (like "all
of them"), well log a lot of warnings. But it will only happen on
server startup, so I think it's ok.
I'm not clear on this. Would this patch fix a real seen-in-the-field
condition, or is it speculative? In particular, if the loop had kept
going in the complainant's machine, would it have found another entry
that worked better?
regards, tom lane
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 23:44, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
When diagnosing a problem for a guy in the german channel (with Stefan
as mediator :P), we've found a case where the timezone information in
the registry seem to be empty for some timezones. The current timezone
matching code will abort scanning when it comes across one of these,
thus claiming it can't match the timezone, and reverting to GMT.We've seen some reports prevously that looked like this, but never
really managed to get it diagnosed. Having checked the registry on
this machine, it appears to simply be that "Std" and "Dlt" are missing
from some entries.The attach patch changes our scan to skip to the next timezone when
this happens, instead of aborting. The only downtime I can see from
this is that in case there are a *lot* of broken timezones (like "all
of them"), well log a lot of warnings. But it will only happen on
server startup, so I think it's ok.I'm not clear on this. Would this patch fix a real seen-in-the-field
condition, or is it speculative? In particular, if the loop had kept
going in the complainant's machine, would it have found another entry
that worked better?
Real, seen-in-the-field. It would proceed and eventually find the guys
Berlin timezone (Central European, which comes after Central Brazilian
which is the one that was missing the entries).
It does, however, turn out that the issue was fixed when he re-applied
the latest timezone update hotfix from microsoft, which appears to
rewrite that entire subkey. Not sure how well we can trust that though
- it's not like we're working off a documented key...
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Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 23:44, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
I'm not clear on this. �Would this patch fix a real seen-in-the-field
condition, or is it speculative? �In particular, if the loop had kept
going in the complainant's machine, would it have found another entry
that worked better?
Real, seen-in-the-field. It would proceed and eventually find the guys
Berlin timezone (Central European, which comes after Central Brazilian
which is the one that was missing the entries).
Ah, of course. People who actually wanted the Central Brazilian zone
are screwed, but they're screwed anyway, and there's no need to also
screw people who want a zone that happens to come later in the list.
+1 for the patch then.
It does, however, turn out that the issue was fixed when he re-applied
the latest timezone update hotfix from microsoft, which appears to
rewrite that entire subkey. Not sure how well we can trust that though
- it's not like we're working off a documented key...
In any case, we might as well make things smoother for people working
with unpatched systems, if it's such a small change.
regards, tom lane
Oh, another thought here: what is the effect of the combination of this
with your other proposal to add more timezones to the list? In
particular, what happens if we use the extended list in an unpatched
system that doesn't know about those new zone names? I'm wondering
if we *have* to make this change for that to behave sanely. We might
also need to consider whether we want any log chatter in such a case.
regards, tom lane
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:02, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Oh, another thought here: what is the effect of the combination of this
with your other proposal to add more timezones to the list? In
particular, what happens if we use the extended list in an unpatched
system that doesn't know about those new zone names? I'm wondering
if we *have* to make this change for that to behave sanely. We might
also need to consider whether we want any log chatter in such a case.
No, as long as the key *exists* we've always moved on to the next one
if it didn't match. It's only when it doesn't exist at all that we
aborted.
And if the system doesn't know about those names, it'll never show up.
We're mapping *from* windows to *us*. So if the zones aren't in
windows at all, there is no way for windows to give us that name.
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Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:02, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Oh, another thought here: what is the effect of the combination of this
with your other proposal to add more timezones to the list?
[ none ]
Ah, right, I hadn't looked closely at the logic before. Still have
two comments though:
* There are other error conditions that cause "break"s in that loop.
Should we change the others?
* There is a comment at the head of win32_tzmap[] explaining where the
data came from; you need to update that.
regards, tom lane
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:48, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:02, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Oh, another thought here: what is the effect of the combination of this
with your other proposal to add more timezones to the list?[ none ]
Ah, right, I hadn't looked closely at the logic before. Still have
two comments though:* There are other error conditions that cause "break"s in that loop.
Should we change the others?
The only other error condition is if we find a key but can't open it.
That indicates something that's *seriously* wrong, so I'm inclined to
keep that one. The other two break statements are actually for when we
*find* a match, so they just indicate that we pick the first match
that we find.
* There is a comment at the head of win32_tzmap[] explaining where the
data came from; you need to update that.
Right.
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:48, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:02, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Oh, another thought here: what is the effect of the combination of this
with your other proposal to add more timezones to the list?[ none ]
Ah, right, I hadn't looked closely at the logic before. Still have
two comments though:* There are other error conditions that cause "break"s in that loop.
Should we change the others?The only other error condition is if we find a key but can't open it.
That indicates something that's *seriously* wrong, so I'm inclined to
keep that one. The other two break statements are actually for when we
*find* a match, so they just indicate that we pick the first match
that we find.
hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right
imezone to use" actually a good idea?
In the case of the person I helped diagnosing the issue pg was bundled
into some commercial app and the only reason the user immediately
noticed that something was "wrong" was because the app used something
like "select now()" to display the current time in the GUI.
I would consider the failure to make sense of the registry on windows or
failure to figure timezone information out a more serious issue than a
mere "WARNING" because depending on how you look at the issue it might
actually cause silent data corruption.
Stefan
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right
imezone to use" actually a good idea?
What alternative are you proposing? Failing to start the server doesn't
seem like an attractive choice.
I would consider the failure to make sense of the registry on windows or
failure to figure timezone information out a more serious issue than a
mere "WARNING" because depending on how you look at the issue it might
actually cause silent data corruption.
Somehow, if you're running a database on windoze, I doubt your data
integrity standards are that high. In any case I'd rather get a bleat
about "why is the server running in GMT" than "my database won't start".
The former will be a lot easier to narrow down.
regards, tom lane
Tom Lane wrote:
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right
imezone to use" actually a good idea?What alternative are you proposing? Failing to start the server doesn't
seem like an attractive choice.
why not? we do error out in a lot of other cases as well... Personally I
find a hard and clear "something is wrong please fix" much more
convinient than defaulting to something that is more or less completely
arbitrary but well...
I would consider the failure to make sense of the registry on windows or
failure to figure timezone information out a more serious issue than a
mere "WARNING" because depending on how you look at the issue it might
actually cause silent data corruption.Somehow, if you're running a database on windoze, I doubt your data
integrity standards are that high. In any case I'd rather get a bleat
about "why is the server running in GMT" than "my database won't start".
The former will be a lot easier to narrow down.
heh - except that we fail in that department - The only (not really
useful hint) that pg logged was:
"WARNUNG: could not query value for 'std' to identify Windows timezone: 2"
which says nothing about "I failed to figure something sane out and so I
have to fallback to GMT" (which is what the !WIN32 code path seems to be
actually doing but not the WIN32 code).
And even from the vendor perspective getting a support call on "uhm the
database for your app is not starting what logs should I look at" seems
better than "hmm we are now 2 weeks in production and just noticed that
all the timestamps are off by a few hours how can we fix our data?".
PostgreSQL is bundled with a lot of apps on windows these days so the
enduser might not even aware of it (and look into the eventlog only to
find a rather oddly phrased WARNING) unless it fails hard...
Stefan
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
<stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right imezone
to use" actually a good idea?What alternative are you proposing? Failing to start the server doesn't
seem like an attractive choice.why not? we do error out in a lot of other cases as well... Personally I
find a hard and clear "something is wrong please fix" much more convinient
than defaulting to something that is more or less completely arbitrary but
well...
While I can understand why someone might want that behavior in some
cases, in other cases it might be a severe overreaction.
...Robert
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
<stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote:Tom Lane wrote:
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right imezone
to use" actually a good idea?What alternative are you proposing? Failing to start the server doesn't
seem like an attractive choice.why not? we do error out in a lot of other cases as well... Personally I
find a hard and clear "something is wrong please fix" much more convinient
than defaulting to something that is more or less completely arbitrary but
well...While I can understand why someone might want that behavior in some
cases, in other cases it might be a severe overreaction.
I think the dangerous scenario is if it worked, and then stopped
working. In that case, the database will change it's behavior and it
might go unnoticed. If it's wrong on first install, it'll likely get
noticed..
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner
<stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> wrote:Tom Lane wrote:
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
hmm all that code makes me wonder a bit about a more general issue - is
the "fallback to GMT if we fail to actually make sense of the right imezone
to use" actually a good idea?What alternative are you proposing? Failing to start the server doesn't
seem like an attractive choice.why not? we do error out in a lot of other cases as well... Personally I
find a hard and clear "something is wrong please fix" much more convinient
than defaulting to something that is more or less completely arbitrary but
well...While I can understand why someone might want that behavior in some
cases, in other cases it might be a severe overreaction.I think the dangerous scenario is if it worked, and then stopped
working. In that case, the database will change it's behavior and it
might go unnoticed. If it's wrong on first install, it'll likely get
noticed..
yeah that is one aspect - and in talking to the OP he would have
prefered the database not starting up at all, logging an error and a
hint on setting a fixed timezone in the conf.
Even if if keep the current fallback behaviour we should at least fix
the windows codepath to do the same as the unix codepath does - as in
actually logging that the fallback to GMT happened...
Stefan
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
yeah that is one aspect - and in talking to the OP he would have
prefered the database not starting up at all, logging an error and a
hint on setting a fixed timezone in the conf.
Well, you started from the statement that this was an embedded copy
of postgres ... so most users might not even know it was there,
much less to check its postmaster log for problems. I'm still of
the opinion that refusing to start is an overreaction.
Even if if keep the current fallback behaviour we should at least fix
the windows codepath to do the same as the unix codepath does - as in
actually logging that the fallback to GMT happened...
+1 for that anyway. There already are WARNING messages for the various
Windows failure cases, but compared to the Unix code
ereport(LOG,
(errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"%s\"", "GMT"),
errhint("You can specify the correct timezone in postgresql.conf.")));
they lack either the note about defaulting to GMT or the hint. I guess
we should add both of those to the failure cases in the Windows version
of identify_system_timezone. Should we also change the WARNING errlevel
to LOG? I think the latter is more likely to actually get into the log.
regards, tom lane
I wrote:
ereport(LOG,
(errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"%s\"", "GMT"),
BTW, does anyone remember the reason for making "GMT" nonlocalizable
in these messages? It seems more straightforward to do
(errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"GMT\""),
I suppose we had a reason for doing it the first way but I can't see
what. "GMT" seems a fairly English-centric way of referring to UTC
anyhow; translators might wish to put in "UTC" instead, or some other
spelling. Shouldn't we let them?
regards, tom lane
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:48, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 00:02, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Oh, another thought here: what is the effect of the combination of this
with your other proposal to add more timezones to the list?
I've applied the patch to add the missing timezone names.
Before I did that I wrote a small perlscript that reads pgtz.c and
compares what's there to what's in the registry of the current
machine. Turns out I had missed one, which is Argentina Standard Time.
This script should probably live in CVS, and be run when Microsoft
releases new timezone data. Where should I put it - src/timezone or
somewhere in src/tools? (it does read pgtz.c in the current directory,
but it doesn't actually edit the file - just outputs on stdout a list
of changes to be made to the file manually)
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On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:06, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
I wrote:
ereport(LOG,
(errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"%s\"", "GMT"),BTW, does anyone remember the reason for making "GMT" nonlocalizable
in these messages? It seems more straightforward to do
Nope, can't recall that.
(errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"GMT\""),
I suppose we had a reason for doing it the first way but I can't see
what. "GMT" seems a fairly English-centric way of referring to UTC
anyhow; translators might wish to put in "UTC" instead, or some other
spelling. Shouldn't we let them?
UTC and GMT aren't actually the same thing. In fact, it might be more
sensible to fall back to UTC than GMT. Both in the message *and* the
code, in that case. They only differ in fractions of seconds, but we
do deal in fractions of seconds... It also carries the nice property
that it's *supposed* to be abbreviated the same way regardless of
language (which is why it's UTC and not CUT).
And either way, it's an abbreviation, and we don't normally translate
those, do we?
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On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:01, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
Even if if keep the current fallback behaviour we should at least fix
the windows codepath to do the same as the unix codepath does - as in
actually logging that the fallback to GMT happened...+1 for that anyway. There already are WARNING messages for the various
Windows failure cases, but compared to the Unix codeereport(LOG,
(errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"%s\"", "GMT"),
errhint("You can specify the correct timezone in postgresql.conf.")));they lack either the note about defaulting to GMT or the hint. I guess
we should add both of those to the failure cases in the Windows version
of identify_system_timezone. Should we also change the WARNING errlevel
to LOG? I think the latter is more likely to actually get into the log.
You are suggesting adding this after the "could not find match"
message, correct? Not replacing it? Because if we replace it, we loose
the information of what we failed to match. So basically like
attached?
Also, would LOG be *more* likely to be seen than a WARNING? Why would that be?
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Attachments:
win32_tz_warning.patchapplication/octet-stream; name=win32_tz_warning.patchDownload
diff --git a/src/timezone/pgtz.c b/src/timezone/pgtz.c
index 1d37bd9..bdca007 100644
--- a/src/timezone/pgtz.c
+++ b/src/timezone/pgtz.c
@@ -1204,6 +1204,11 @@ identify_system_timezone(void)
ereport(WARNING,
(errmsg("could not find a match for Windows timezone \"%s\"",
tzname)));
+
+ ereport(LOG,
+ (errmsg("could not determine system time zone, defaulting to \"%s\"", "GMT"),
+ errhint("You can specify the correct timezone in postgresql.conf.")));
+
return NULL;
}
#endif /* WIN32 */
[ back to this... ]
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:06, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
I suppose we had a reason for doing it the first way but I can't see
what. �"GMT" seems a fairly English-centric way of referring to UTC
anyhow; translators might wish to put in "UTC" instead, or some other
spelling. �Shouldn't we let them?
UTC and GMT aren't actually the same thing.
Tell it to the zic people --- they are identical except for the zone
abbreviation itself, according to the zic database. There might be some
pedantic argument for preferring the name "UTC", but I'm hesitant to
change that behavior just to satisfy pedants.
And either way, it's an abbreviation, and we don't normally translate
those, do we?
I think that might in fact have been the argument for the current coding
style; but it still seems like it's overcomplicating matters in order to
prevent translators from making a decision they should be perfectly
competent to make for themselves. Anyway, it's not real important.
Since nobody else seems to be excited about changing that part,
I'll leave it alone.
regards, tom lane
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:01, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
... lack either the note about defaulting to GMT or the hint. I guess
we should add both of those to the failure cases in the Windows version
of identify_system_timezone. Should we also change the WARNING errlevel
to LOG? I think the latter is more likely to actually get into the log.
You are suggesting adding this after the "could not find match"
message, correct? Not replacing it? Because if we replace it, we loose
the information of what we failed to match. So basically like
attached?
No, I was thinking more like the attached. This changes the Unix code
to separate the info about the fallback timezone into errdetail, and
then makes the Windows messages follow that style.
Also, would LOG be *more* likely to be seen than a WARNING? Why would that be?
Because that's how log levels sort for the postmaster log. This isn't
an interactive warning --- we will never be executing this code in a
regular backend, only in the postmaster.
regards, tom lane
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
[ back to this... ]
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:06, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
I suppose we had a reason for doing it the first way but I can't see
what. "GMT" seems a fairly English-centric way of referring to UTC
anyhow; translators might wish to put in "UTC" instead, or some other
spelling. Shouldn't we let them?UTC and GMT aren't actually the same thing.
Tell it to the zic people --- they are identical except for the zone
abbreviation itself, according to the zic database. There might be some
pedantic argument for preferring the name "UTC", but I'm hesitant to
change that behavior just to satisfy pedants.
Agreed, I don't think it's worth changing. However, that also goes to
the translation of it - let's keep *one* term, that'll make it a lot
less confusing.
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> writes:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 21:01, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
... lack either the note about defaulting to GMT or the hint. I guess
we should add both of those to the failure cases in the Windows version
of identify_system_timezone. Should we also change the WARNING errlevel
to LOG? I think the latter is more likely to actually get into the log.You are suggesting adding this after the "could not find match"
message, correct? Not replacing it? Because if we replace it, we loose
the information of what we failed to match. So basically like
attached?No, I was thinking more like the attached. This changes the Unix code
to separate the info about the fallback timezone into errdetail, and
then makes the Windows messages follow that style.
Yeah, that looks good.
Also, would LOG be *more* likely to be seen than a WARNING? Why would that be?
Because that's how log levels sort for the postmaster log. This isn't
an interactive warning --- we will never be executing this code in a
regular backend, only in the postmaster.
Well, when the dba looks through the log, he'll be looking a lot
harder at something that says WARNING.
And if somebody is filtering his log so hard that it doesn't even
contain WARNING's, frankly, he's ignorant ;)
But that's just me, and I've never really agreed with that soring in
the first place, so maybe I should just be ignored...
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