found a very confusing and maybe outdated sentence

Started by Susanne Ebrechtalmost 15 years ago6 messages
#1Susanne Ebrecht
susanne@2ndQuadrant.com

Hello,

It is in start.sgml. You can see it here:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/tutorial-accessdb.html

The last two sentences on the page:

" If PostgreSQL is installed correctly you can also
type man psql at the operating system shell prompt
to see the documentation. In this tutorial we will not
use these features explicitly, but you can use them
yourself when it is helpful."

Isn't that totally outdated?

Is "man" really working on Windows?

Also the sentence says that the whole product isn't correct
installed just because docs aren't installed. Which also isn't
really true.

Honesty, I just would like to drop the whole sentences.

What do you think?

Susanne

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Susanne Ebrecht - 2ndQuadrant
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services
www.2ndQuadrant.com

#2Robert Haas
robertmhaas@gmail.com
In reply to: Susanne Ebrecht (#1)
Re: found a very confusing and maybe outdated sentence

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Susanne Ebrecht
<susanne@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Hello,

It is in start.sgml. You can see it here:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/tutorial-accessdb.html

The last two sentences on the page:

" If PostgreSQL is installed correctly you can also
type man psql at the operating system shell prompt
to see the documentation. In this tutorial we will not
use these features explicitly, but you can use them
yourself when it is helpful."

Isn't that totally outdated?

Is "man" really working on Windows?

Also the sentence says that the whole product isn't correct
installed just because docs aren't installed. Which also isn't
really true.

Honesty, I just would like to drop the whole sentences.

What do you think?

+1 for deleting the entire sentence.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

#3Susanne Ebrecht
susanne@2ndQuadrant.com
In reply to: Robert Haas (#2)
1 attachment(s)
Re: found a very confusing and maybe outdated sentence

On 31.03.2011 18:13, Robert Haas wrote:

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Susanne Ebrecht
<susanne@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Hello,

It is in start.sgml. You can see it here:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/tutorial-accessdb.html

The last two sentences on the page:

" If PostgreSQL is installed correctly you can also
type man psql at the operating system shell prompt
to see the documentation. In this tutorial we will not
use these features explicitly, but you can use them
yourself when it is helpful."

Isn't that totally outdated?

Is "man" really working on Windows?

Also the sentence says that the whole product isn't correct
installed just because docs aren't installed. Which also isn't
really true.

Honesty, I just would like to drop the whole sentences.

What do you think?

+1 for deleting the entire sentence.

Here is the patch for removing the whole sentence.

Susanne

--
Susanne Ebrecht - 2ndQuadrant
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services
www.2ndQuadrant.com

Attachments:

doc_tutorial_remove_sentence_about_man_page.patchtext/x-patch; name=doc_tutorial_remove_sentence_about_man_page.patchDownload
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/start.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/start.sgml
index 4275bf8..0bfc25e 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/start.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/start.sgml
@@ -403,11 +403,7 @@ mydb=#
     command shell. (For more internal commands, type
     <literal>\?</literal> at the <command>psql</command> prompt.)  The
     full capabilities of <command>psql</command> are documented in
-    <xref linkend="app-psql">.  If <productname>PostgreSQL</> is
-    installed correctly you can also type <literal>man psql</literal>
-    at the operating system shell prompt to see the documentation.  In
-    this tutorial we will not use these features explicitly, but you
-    can use them yourself when it is helpful.
+    <xref linkend="app-psql">.
    </para>
 
   </sect1>
#4Robert Haas
robertmhaas@gmail.com
In reply to: Susanne Ebrecht (#3)
Re: found a very confusing and maybe outdated sentence

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Susanne Ebrecht <susanne@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Is "man" really working on Windows?

Also the sentence says that the whole product isn't correct
installed just because docs aren't installed. Which also isn't
really true.

Honesty, I just would like to drop the whole sentences.

What do you think?

+1 for deleting the entire sentence.

Here is the patch for removing the whole sentence.

Hmm... this actually removes two sentences. I've committed the
removal of the one we talked about; I don't particularly see any
reason to remove the following one also.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

#5Susanne Ebrecht
susanne@2ndQuadrant.com
In reply to: Robert Haas (#4)
Re: [HACKERS] found a very confusing and maybe outdated sentence

On 04.04.2011 01:51, Robert Haas wrote:

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Susanne Ebrecht<susanne@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

Is "man" really working on Windows?

Also the sentence says that the whole product isn't correct
installed just because docs aren't installed. Which also isn't
really true.

Honesty, I just would like to drop the whole sentences.

What do you think?

+1 for deleting the entire sentence.

Here is the patch for removing the whole sentence.

Hmm... this actually removes two sentences. I've committed the
removal of the one we talked about; I don't particularly see any
reason to remove the following one also.

Hello Robert,

the second sentence says "these features" - and I would understand:

these features == man pages

Means, I would understand that the two sentences belong together and
both talk about man pages.

When we don't mention man pages anymore then we not need the sentence
that tells that the tutorial won't take care about man pages.

Susanne

--
Susanne Ebrecht - 2ndQuadrant
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services
www.2ndQuadrant.com

#6Robert Haas
robertmhaas@gmail.com
In reply to: Susanne Ebrecht (#5)
Re: [HACKERS] found a very confusing and maybe outdated sentence

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Susanne Ebrecht <susanne@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

the second sentence says "these features" - and I would understand:

these features == man pages

Means, I would understand that the two sentences belong together and
both talk about man pages.

When we don't mention man pages anymore then we not need the sentence
that tells that the tutorial won't take care about man pages.

Oh, I interpreted that sentence to be talking about the features *of
psql*, not the man pages.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company