GSoC 2015: SP-GIST for geometrical objects

Started by Dima Ivanovskiyalmost 11 years ago4 messages
#1Dima Ivanovskiy
dima-iv@mail.ru

Hello, I am Dmitrii, student of Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology

Abstract:
I chose project "Indexing prolonged geometrical objects (i.e. boxes, circles, polygons, not points) with SP-GiST by mapping to 4d-space".
According to the presentation
https://www.pgcon.org/2011/schedule/attachments/197_pgcon-2011.pdf
SP-GIST 3 times faster than GiST in some cases. But GIST supports geometrical data types:
box, circle, polygon with operators: && &> &< &<| >> << <<| <@ @> @ |&> |>> ~ ~=
Popular spatial extension PostGIS doesn't include SP-GIST, but has a lot of geometrical features.

Project details:
After meeting with Alexander Korotkov, I wrote some plan.
Using of K-D-tree and Quadtree in building index for geometrical data types can increase speed of search in some cases.
The main idea is representing 2-D geometrical objects in their bounding box. Set of 2-D boxes is 4-D space.
New _ops will work with points from 4-D space, for example kd_box_ops, quad_circle_ops and will support all geometrical operators.
After conversion object to their bounding box algo has set of tuples (x1, y1, x2, y2).
Our goal is separate this space the most equally. If we talk about K-D-tree, on first step K-D-tree algorithm will split space in 2 parts by the first coordinate, in next step by the second coordinate etc., after 4-th coordinate we repeat this procedure.
At the end we have index at geometrical objects and use traversal tree for every search operator.

Postgresql has already has realization ideas of MBR in gist/gistproc.c. So I will transfer this realization to other type of tree.

Of cource, I assume that SP-GIST can be not the best decision of this problem. So after testing this clear methods, I will try to find more effective way. Maybe with using combination of different spatial tree structures.

Project Schedule:

until May 25

Read documentation and source code, clarify details of implementation.

1st month

Implement new '_ops' with all geometrical operators for box, circle, polygon

2nd month

Research new methods for increase speed of geometrical query

3rd month

Final refactoring, testing and submitting a patch.

Links:
http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/talks/gist_tutorial.html - about GIST
https://toster.ru/q/27135#answer_110197 - people need SP-GIST for cubes
http://www.slideshare.net/profyclub_ru/o-lt - presentation about indexes
http://pgconf.ru/static/presentations/2015/korotkov_spatial.pdf - working with geo objects

#2Arthur Silva
arthurprs@gmail.com
In reply to: Dima Ivanovskiy (#1)
Re: GSoC 2015: SP-GIST for geometrical objects

On Mar 27, 2015 11:08 AM, "Dima Ivanovskiy" <dima-iv@mail.ru> wrote:

Hello, I am Dmitrii, student of Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology

Abstract:

I chose project "Indexing prolonged geometrical objects (i.e. boxes,

circles, polygons, not points) with SP-GiST by mapping to 4d-space".

According to the presentation
https://www.pgcon.org/2011/schedule/attachments/197_pgcon-2011.pdf
SP-GIST 3 times faster than GiST in some cases. But GIST supports

geometrical data types:

box, circle, polygon with operators: && &> &< &<| >> << <<| <@ @> @ |&>

|>> ~ ~=

Popular spatial extension PostGIS doesn't include SP-GIST, but has a lot

of geometrical features.

Project details:

After meeting with Alexander Korotkov, I wrote some plan.
Using of K-D-tree and Quadtree in building index for geometrical data

types can increase speed of search in some cases.

The main idea is representing 2-D geometrical objects in their bounding

box. Set of 2-D boxes is 4-D space.

New _ops will work with points from 4-D space, for example kd_box_ops,

quad_circle_ops and will support all geometrical operators.

After conversion object to their bounding box algo has set of tuples (x1,

y1, x2, y2).

Our goal is separate this space the most equally. If we talk about

K-D-tree, on first step K-D-tree algorithm will split space in 2 parts by
the first coordinate, in next step by the second coordinate etc., after
4-th coordinate we repeat this procedure.

At the end we have index at geometrical objects and use traversal tree

for every search operator.

Postgresql has already has realization ideas of MBR in gist/gistproc.c.

So I will transfer this realization to other type of tree.

Of cource, I assume that SP-GIST can be not the best decision of this

problem. So after testing this clear methods, I will try to find more
effective way. Maybe with using combination of different spatial tree
structures.

Project Schedule:

until May 25

Read documentation and source code, clarify details of implementation.

1st month

Implement new '_ops' with all geometrical operators for box, circle,

polygon

2nd month

Research new methods for increase speed of geometrical query

3rd month

Final refactoring, testing and submitting a patch.

Links:

http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/talks/gist_tutorial.html - about

GIST

https://toster.ru/q/27135#answer_110197 - people need SP-GIST for cubes
http://www.slideshare.net/profyclub_ru/o-lt - presentation about indexes
http://pgconf.ru/static/presentations/2015/korotkov_spatial.pdf - working

with geo objects

Nice proposal.

Dynamic Kdtrees can perform badly as the splitting median can get way off
as updates are coming. What are your thoughts about that?

Also what's up with the 4d space? I don't quite get it. These types are 2
or 3 dimensions.

#3Dima Ivanovskiy
dima-iv@mail.ru
In reply to: Arthur Silva (#2)
Re[2]: [HACKERS] GSoC 2015: SP-GIST for geometrical objects

On Mar 27, 2015 11:08 AM, "Dima Ivanovskiy" < dima-iv@mail.ru > wrote:

Hello, I am Dmitrii, student of Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology

Abstract:

I chose project "Indexing prolonged geometrical objects (i.e. boxes, circles, polygons, not points) with SP-GiST by mapping to 4d-space".
According to the presentation
https://www.pgcon.org/2011/schedule/attachments/197_pgcon-2011.pdf
SP-GIST 3 times faster than GiST in some cases. But GIST supports geometrical data types:
box, circle, polygon with operators: && &> &< &<| >> << <<| <@ @> @ |&> |>> ~ ~=
Popular spatial extension PostGIS doesn't include SP-GIST, but has a lot of geometrical features.

Project details:

After meeting with Alexander Korotkov, I wrote some plan.
Using of K-D-tree and Quadtree in building index for geometrical data types can increase speed of search in some cases.
The main idea is representing 2-D geometrical objects in their bounding box. Set of 2-D boxes is 4-D space.
New _ops will work with points from 4-D space, for example kd_box_ops, quad_circle_ops and will support all geometrical operators.
After conversion object to their bounding box algo has set of tuples (x1, y1, x2, y2).
Our goal is separate this space the most equally. If we talk about K-D-tree, on first step K-D-tree algorithm will split space in 2 parts by the first coordinate, in next step by the second coordinate etc., after 4-th coordinate we repeat this procedure.
At the end we have index at geometrical objects and use traversal tree for every search operator.

Postgresql has already has realization ideas of MBR in gist/gistproc.c. So I will transfer this realization to other type of tree.

Of cource, I assume that SP-GIST can be not the best decision of this problem. So after testing this clear methods, I will try to find more effective way. Maybe with using combination of different spatial tree structures.

Project Schedule:

until May 25

Read documentation and source code, clarify details of implementation.

1st month

Implement new '_ops' with all geometrical operators for box, circle, polygon

2nd month

Research new methods for increase speed of geometrical query

3rd month

Final refactoring, testing and submitting a patch.

Links:

http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/talks/gist_tutorial.html - about GIST
https://toster.ru/q/27135#answer_110197 - people need SP-GIST for cubes
http://www.slideshare.net/profyclub_ru/o-lt - presentation about indexes
http://pgconf.ru/static/presentations/2015/korotkov_spatial.pdf - working with geo objects

Nice proposal.
Dynamic Kdtrees can perform badly as the splitting median can get way off as updates are coming. What are your thoughts about that?
Also what's up with the 4d space? I don't quite get it. These types are 2 or 3 dimensions.

I read spgist README one more time . I didn't find the mechanism for maintaining good balance after updates.
I think we can use Bkd-Tree, https://www.cs.duke.edu/~pankaj/publications/papers/bkd-sstd.pdf . But It can be not the best solving.
I include Research time in 2nd month of timeline.

About 4d space. All these types are 2 dimensional.
Just as i n R-tree object is approximated by MBR. MBR for 2d-objects can be mapped to 4d-point. More general, nd-object MBR can be mapped into 2nd-point.

#4Arthur Silva
arthurprs@gmail.com
In reply to: Dima Ivanovskiy (#3)
Re: GSoC 2015: SP-GIST for geometrical objects

On Mar 27, 2015 6:41 PM, "Dima Ivanovskiy" <dima-iv@mail.ru> wrote:

On Mar 27, 2015 11:08 AM, "Dima Ivanovskiy" <dima-iv@mail.ru> wrote:

Hello, I am Dmitrii, student of Moscow Institute of Physics and

Technology

Abstract:

I chose project "Indexing prolonged geometrical objects (i.e. boxes,

circles, polygons, not points) with SP-GiST by mapping to 4d-space".

According to the presentation
https://www.pgcon.org/2011/schedule/attachments/197_pgcon-2011.pdf
SP-GIST 3 times faster than GiST in some cases. But GIST supports

geometrical data types:

box, circle, polygon with operators: && &> &< &<| >> << <<| <@ @> @

|&> |>> ~ ~=

Popular spatial extension PostGIS doesn't include SP-GIST, but has a

lot of geometrical features.

Project details:

After meeting with Alexander Korotkov, I wrote some plan.
Using of K-D-tree and Quadtree in building index for geometrical data

types can increase speed of search in some cases.

The main idea is representing 2-D geometrical objects in their

bounding box. Set of 2-D boxes is 4-D space.

New _ops will work with points from 4-D space, for example kd_box_ops,

quad_circle_ops and will support all geometrical operators.

After conversion object to their bounding box algo has set of tuples

(x1, y1, x2, y2).

Our goal is separate this space the most equally. If we talk about

K-D-tree, on first step K-D-tree algorithm will split space in 2 parts by
the first coordinate, in next step by the second coordinate etc., after
4-th coordinate we repeat this procedure.

At the end we have index at geometrical objects and use traversal tree

for every search operator.

Postgresql has already has realization ideas of MBR in

gist/gistproc.c. So I will transfer this realization to other type of tree.

Of cource, I assume that SP-GIST can be not the best decision of this

problem. So after testing this clear methods, I will try to find more
effective way. Maybe with using combination of different spatial tree
structures.

Project Schedule:

until May 25

Read documentation and source code, clarify details of implementation.

1st month

Implement new '_ops' with all geometrical operators for box, circle,

polygon

2nd month

Research new methods for increase speed of geometrical query

3rd month

Final refactoring, testing and submitting a patch.

Links:

http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/talks/gist_tutorial.html -

about GIST

https://toster.ru/q/27135#answer_110197 - people need SP-GIST for cubes
http://www.slideshare.net/profyclub_ru/o-lt - presentation about

indexes

http://pgconf.ru/static/presentations/2015/korotkov_spatial.pdf -

working with geo objects

Nice proposal.

Dynamic Kdtrees can perform badly as the splitting median can get way

off as updates are coming. What are your thoughts about that?

Also what's up with the 4d space? I don't quite get it. These types are

2 or 3 dimensions.

I read spgist README one more time. I didn't find the mechanism for

maintaining good balance after updates.

I think we can use Bkd-Tree,

https://www.cs.duke.edu/~pankaj/publications/papers/bkd-sstd.pdf. But It
can be not the best solving.

I include Research time in 2nd month of timeline.

About 4d space. All these types are 2 dimensional.
Just as in R-tree object is approximated by MBR. MBR for 2d-objects can

be mapped to 4d-point. More general, nd-object MBR can be mapped into
2nd-point.

The reason I said that is because you pointed performance as one
motivation factor (and the lack of balancing properties can degrade
performance really fast on larger indexes).

The Bkd variant seems interesting but I don't think spgist provides enough
abstraction to implement it.

A bounding box can still be inserted/queried with a 2d kdtree so I don't
know why you call it 4d. I assume it's a matter of naming.

Overall the proposal seems totally doable, although I have doubts about its
usefulness. But I'm no one... You should have some feedback from the
mentors soon.