Re: trouble creating log table with rules

Started by Wayne Piekarskiover 26 years ago3 messages
#1Wayne Piekarski
wayne@senet.com.au

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:53:05 -0500
From: Jim Rowan <jmr@computing.com>
Subject: trouble creating log table with rules

I've read the docs in the programmers manual, and can create rules like this:

CREATE RULE "m_log_change" AS ON UPDATE TO "machine"
do (
INSERT INTO machine_log (who, date, machnum, col, newval)
SELECT getpgusername(), 'now'::text, old.machnum,
'host', new.host
WHERE (new.host != old.host) or
(old.host IS NOT NULL and new.host IS NULL) or
(old.host IS NULL and new.host IS NOT NULL);

INSERT INTO machine_log (who, date, machnum, col, newval)
SELECT getpgusername(), 'now'::text, old.machnum,
'serial_num_cpu', new.serial_num_cpu
WHERE (new.serial_num_cpu != old.serial_num_cpu) or
(old.serial_num_cpu IS NOT NULL and new.serial_num_cpu IS NULL) or
(old.serial_num_cpu IS NULL and new.serial_num_cpu IS NOT NULL);
);

My big problem is that if I replicate this enough times to cover the fields I
want, I get this error:

pqReadData() -- backend closed the channel unexpectedly.
This probably means the backend terminated abnormally
before or while processing the request.
We have lost the connection to the backend, so further processing is impossible. Terminating.

Is there a way I can avoid this error? Is there a better way to code these
rules?

Hi,

I've seen similar kinds of behaviour in 6.4.2 with
triggers/rules/procedures and so on where the backend would die randomly.
I'm not sure if it is still in 6.5, I haven't used it yet. Have a look at
the error log from the postmaster and see if there is anything interesting
in there and I might be able to help you some more here. Sometimes you
might get a BTP_CHAIN fault, or another one (I can't rememember - I
haven't seen it in a while). The solution I found was just before adding
your procedures or whatever, do a VACUUM ANALYZE pg_proc, which will
vacuum one of the internal system tables, and then it would work. I found
that without the vacuum, postgres would die every third or fourth time I
tried to reload my triggers, etc.

Also, I haven't reported this yet (because I can't reproduce it) but every
so often, I've found that you'll do the vacuum, and then it will return
"Blowaway_relation_buffers returned -2" and the vacuum dies. This is
really bad, and so you would normally dump the data and reload, but you
can't do this for pg_proc. So the dbms is screwed and you have to reload
the whole thing. It turns out that one of the indices or the table itself
has this BTP_CHAIN problem.

I did some experiments involving trying to trick postgres into allowing me
to dump reload it (ie, create a new table called pg_proc_2, with the same
data and indices, and moving it into place but it won't let you do it to
protect itself.

The worst part with this kind of death is that my database is about 1.1 Gb
on disk, and so reloading is NOT something I want to have to do :)

Anyone got any advice for this or know of a problem? As mentioned in
another email posted to the hackers list, I am getting lots of problems
with BTP_CHAIN problems and having to reload tables, which is not
something I want to do during the day when staff are trying to use the
database and I have to shut it down. I've heard there is a patch for this
but I haven't got anything back on whether its ok to use it or not.

bye,
Wayne

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#2Noname
wieck@debis.com
In reply to: Wayne Piekarski (#1)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: trouble creating log table with rules

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:53:05 -0500
From: Jim Rowan <jmr@computing.com>
Subject: trouble creating log table with rules

I've read the docs in the programmers manual, and can create rules like this:

CREATE RULE "m_log_change" AS ON UPDATE TO "machine"
do (
INSERT INTO machine_log (who, date, machnum, col, newval)
SELECT getpgusername(), 'now'::text, old.machnum,
'host', new.host
WHERE (new.host != old.host) or
(old.host IS NOT NULL and new.host IS NULL) or
(old.host IS NULL and new.host IS NOT NULL);

INSERT INTO machine_log (who, date, machnum, col, newval)
SELECT getpgusername(), 'now'::text, old.machnum,
'serial_num_cpu', new.serial_num_cpu
WHERE (new.serial_num_cpu != old.serial_num_cpu) or
(old.serial_num_cpu IS NOT NULL and new.serial_num_cpu IS NULL) or
(old.serial_num_cpu IS NULL and new.serial_num_cpu IS NOT NULL);
);

My big problem is that if I replicate this enough times to cover the fields I
want, I get this error:

pqReadData() -- backend closed the channel unexpectedly.
This probably means the backend terminated abnormally
before or while processing the request.
We have lost the connection to the backend, so further processing is impossible. Terminating.

You didn't tell us which version of PostgreSQL and (more
important) if the error occurs during CREATE RULE or when
updating machine.

If it occurs during the CREATE RULE (what I hope for you) it
doesn't happen in the rewriter itself. For the rule actions
in the example above it isn't important in which order they
are processed. So you could setup single action rules per
field to get (mostly) the same results.

If you can create the entire multi action rule but get the
backend crash during UPDATE of machine, then it's a problem
in the rewriter which I cannot imagine looking at your rules.

Jan

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#3Jim Rowan
jmr@computing.com
In reply to: Noname (#2)
Re: [HACKERS] Re: trouble creating log table with rules

I said:

CREATE RULE "m_log_change" AS ON UPDATE TO "machine"
do (
INSERT INTO machine_log (who, date, machnum, col, newval)
SELECT getpgusername(), 'now'::text, old.machnum,
'host', new.host
WHERE (new.host != old.host) or
(old.host IS NOT NULL and new.host IS NULL) or
(old.host IS NULL and new.host IS NOT NULL);

INSERT INTO machine_log (who, date, machnum, col, newval)
SELECT getpgusername(), 'now'::text, old.machnum,
'serial_num_cpu', new.serial_num_cpu
WHERE (new.serial_num_cpu != old.serial_num_cpu) or
(old.serial_num_cpu IS NOT NULL and new.serial_num_cpu IS NULL) or
(old.serial_num_cpu IS NULL and new.serial_num_cpu IS NOT NULL);
);
My big problem is that if I replicate this enough times to cover the fields I
want, I get this error:

pqReadData() -- backend closed the channel unexpectedly.
This probably means the backend terminated abnormally
before or while processing the request.
We have lost the connection to the backend, so further processing is impossible. Terminating.

wieck> You didn't tell us which version of PostgreSQL and (more
wieck> important) if the error occurs during CREATE RULE or when updating
wieck> machine.

Duhhh. sorry!
postgresql 6.5; FreeBSD 3.2 stable - recent.

The error occurs during CREATE RULE.

wieck> So you could setup single action rules per field to get (mostly)
wieck> the same results.

I previously had tried to do the same thing with many (more than 10) distinct
single-action rules (sorry, don't have the exact syntax of what I used.. but
it was very similar to this example.).

In that case, the CREATE RULE worked properly, but at update time it bombed
out (again, don't have the detail anymore). The error message indicated that
it thought there was a loop in my rules, something about "more than 10"...
In that case, as I remember, the backend did not crash -- it just declined to
execute the update.

I'll try multiple multi-action rules to see if I can do what I want..

Is this (the way I'm writing the rules) the best approach?

Jim Rowan DCSI DCE/DFS/Sysadmin Consulting
jmr@computing.com (512) 374-1143