pg_upgrade vs. pg_ctl stop -m fast

Started by Peter Eisentrautalmost 9 years ago6 messages
#1Peter Eisentraut
peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com

In 9.5, the default pg_ctl stop mode was changed from "smart" to "fast".

In pg_upgrade, there is this code:

void
stop_postmaster(bool fast)
{
...
exec_prog(SERVER_STOP_LOG_FILE, NULL, !fast,
"\"%s/pg_ctl\" -w -D \"%s\" -o \"%s\" %s stop",
cluster->bindir, cluster->pgconfig,
cluster->pgopts ? cluster->pgopts : "",
fast ? "-m fast" : "");
...
}

So, when upgrading from 9.5 or later, code that requested a non-fast
shutdown would now always get a fast shutdown.

I think the last line should be changed to something like

fast ? "-m fast" : "-m smart");

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#2Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
Re: pg_upgrade vs. pg_ctl stop -m fast

Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:

In 9.5, the default pg_ctl stop mode was changed from "smart" to "fast".
In pg_upgrade, there is this code:
...
I think the last line should be changed to something like
fast ? "-m fast" : "-m smart");

Ugh. Clear oversight.

There is maybe room for a separate discussion about whether pg_upgrade
*should* be using fast mode, but if so we could remove the "bool fast"
argument from this function altogether.

regards, tom lane

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#3Bruce Momjian
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In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)
Re: pg_upgrade vs. pg_ctl stop -m fast

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:17:52AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:

Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:

In 9.5, the default pg_ctl stop mode was changed from "smart" to "fast".
In pg_upgrade, there is this code:
...
I think the last line should be changed to something like
fast ? "-m fast" : "-m smart");

Ugh. Clear oversight.

There is maybe room for a separate discussion about whether pg_upgrade
*should* be using fast mode, but if so we could remove the "bool fast"
argument from this function altogether.

Agreed, it should be remove. Should I do it?

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#4Peter Eisentraut
peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#3)
Re: pg_upgrade vs. pg_ctl stop -m fast

On 1/12/17 9:43 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:17:52AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:

Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:

In 9.5, the default pg_ctl stop mode was changed from "smart" to "fast".
In pg_upgrade, there is this code:
...
I think the last line should be changed to something like
fast ? "-m fast" : "-m smart");

Ugh. Clear oversight.

There is maybe room for a separate discussion about whether pg_upgrade
*should* be using fast mode, but if so we could remove the "bool fast"
argument from this function altogether.

Agreed, it should be remove. Should I do it?

For 9.5 and 9.6, I think we should backpatch what I suggested above, to
minimize the behavior change. For master we can consider removing the
distinction and just use fast shutdown all the time, but I haven't
checked all the possible implications of that change.

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#5Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#4)
Re: pg_upgrade vs. pg_ctl stop -m fast

Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:

On 1/12/17 9:43 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:17:52AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:

Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:

I think the last line should be changed to something like
fast ? "-m fast" : "-m smart");

There is maybe room for a separate discussion about whether pg_upgrade
*should* be using fast mode, but if so we could remove the "bool fast"
argument from this function altogether.

Agreed, it should be remove. Should I do it?

For 9.5 and 9.6, I think we should backpatch what I suggested above, to
minimize the behavior change. For master we can consider removing the
distinction and just use fast shutdown all the time, but I haven't
checked all the possible implications of that change.

That sounds sensible to me.

regards, tom lane

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#6Peter Eisentraut
peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#4)
Re: pg_upgrade vs. pg_ctl stop -m fast

On 1/13/17 9:45 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

On 1/12/17 9:43 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:17:52AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:

Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:

In 9.5, the default pg_ctl stop mode was changed from "smart" to "fast".
In pg_upgrade, there is this code:
...
I think the last line should be changed to something like
fast ? "-m fast" : "-m smart");

Ugh. Clear oversight.

There is maybe room for a separate discussion about whether pg_upgrade
*should* be using fast mode, but if so we could remove the "bool fast"
argument from this function altogether.

Agreed, it should be remove. Should I do it?

For 9.5 and 9.6, I think we should backpatch what I suggested above, to
minimize the behavior change.

I have committed that (including to master).

For master we can consider removing the
distinction and just use fast shutdown all the time, but I haven't
checked all the possible implications of that change.

I'm not planning to work on this at this time.

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