PITR on DROP DATABASE, deleting of the database directory despite the recovery_target_time set before.
Dear Hackers,
A customer reported a strange behaviour on a PITR restoration.
After a drop database, he tried to recover the data on the last inserted
transaction by using the recovery_target_time.
The issue is the database is present in the system catalog but the
directory was still deleted.
Here the technical information of the database
version 11
default postgresql.conf except for this options
wal_level = replica
archive_mode = on
archive_command = 'cp %p /tmp/wal_archive/%f '
log_statement = 'all'
log_min_messages = debug5
The following method was used
* create cluster
* create database
* create 1 table
* create 1 index on 1 column
* insert 1 rows
* backup with pg_base_backup
* insert 2 rows
* drop database
* stop instance
* found the last inserted transaction timestamp(|'2019-11-13
11:49:08.413744+01'|) before drop database
* replace $datadir by a pg_base_backup archive
* edit recovery.conf
* |restore_command = 'cp /tmp/wal_archive/%f "%p"'|
* |recovery_target_time = '2019-11-13 11:49:08.413744+01'|
* |recovery_target_inclusive = true|
* |restart cluster|
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|I tried to understand what's happening, when we analyse the
postgresql.log (log_min_message = debug5), we can see that |
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|the recovery stopped before transaction 574 (repository database) so at
transaction 573 being the last insert, but the database directory was
still deleted.|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: remove KnownAssignedXid 572|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/3000178 for
Transaction/COMMIT: 2019-11-13 11:49:08.248928+01|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: record known xact 573
latestObservedXid 572|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/30001A0 for
Heap/INSERT: off 3|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: record known xact 573
latestObservedXid 573|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/30001F8 for
Btree/INSERT_LEAF: off 3|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: record known xact 573
latestObservedXid 573|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/3000238 for
Transaction/COMMIT: 2019-11-13 11:49:08.413744+01|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: record known xact 573
latestObservedXid 573|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/3000238 for
Transaction/COMMIT: 2019-11-13 11:49:08.413744+01|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: remove KnownAssignedXid 573|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/3000238 for
Transaction/COMMIT: 2019-11-13 11:49:08.413744+01|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: record known xact 574
latestObservedXid 573|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/3000260 for
Heap/DELETE: off 4 KEYS_UPDATED|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: prune KnownAssignedXids to 574|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/3000730 for
Standby/RUNNING_XACTS: nextXid 575 latestCompletedXid 573
oldestRunningXid 574; 1 xacts: 574|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] DEBUG: record known xact 574
latestObservedXid 574|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.732 CET [30666] CONTEXT: WAL redo at 0/30007D8 for
Database/DROP: dir 16384/1663|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.738 CET [30666] LOG: recovery stopping before
commit of transaction 574, time 2019-11-13 11:49:10.683426+01|
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|2019-11-13 11:55:12.738 CET [30666] LOG: recovery has paused|
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By analysing the wal file with pg_waldump
|rmgr: Heap len (rec/tot): 54/ 198, tx: 572, lsn:
0/03000028, prev 0/020000F8, desc: INSERT off 2, blkref #0: rel
1663/16384/16385 blk 0 FPW|
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|rmgr: Btree len (rec/tot): 53/ 133, tx: 572, lsn:
0/030000F0, prev 0/03000028, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 2, blkref #0: rel
1663/16384/16388 blk 1 FPW|
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|rmgr: Transaction len (rec/tot): 34/ 34, tx: 572, lsn:
0/03000178, prev 0/030000F0, desc: COMMIT 2019-11-13 11:49:08.248928 CET|
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|rmgr: Heap len (rec/tot): 87/ 87, tx: 573, lsn:
0/030001A0, prev 0/03000178, desc: INSERT off 3, blkref #0: rel
1663/16384/16385 blk 0|
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|rmgr: Btree len (rec/tot): 64/ 64, tx: 573, lsn:
0/030001F8, prev 0/030001A0, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 3, blkref #0: rel
1663/16384/16388 blk 1|
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|rmgr: Transaction len (rec/tot): 34/ 34, tx: 573, lsn:
0/03000238, prev 0/030001F8, desc: COMMIT 2019-11-13 11:49:08.413744 CET|
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|rmgr: Heap len (rec/tot): 59/ 1227, tx: 574, lsn:
0/03000260, prev 0/03000238, desc: DELETE off 4 KEYS_UPDATED , blkref
#0: rel 1664/0/1262 blk 0 FPW|
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|rmgr: Standby len (rec/tot): 54/ 54, tx: 0, lsn:
0/03000730, prev 0/03000260, desc: RUNNING_XACTS nextXid 575
latestCompletedXid 573 oldestRunningXid 574; 1 xacts: 574|
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|rmgr: XLOG len (rec/tot): 106/ 106, tx: 0, lsn:
0/03000768, prev 0/03000730, desc: CHECKPOINT_ONLINE redo 0/3000730; tli
1; prev tli 1; fpw true; xid 0:575; oid 24576; multi 1; offset 0; oldest
xid 561 in DB 1; oldest multi 1 in DB 1; oldest/newest commit timestamp
xid: 0/0; oldest running xid 574; online|
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|rmgr: Database len (rec/tot): 34/ 34, tx: 574, lsn:
0/030007D8, prev 0/03000768, desc: DROP dir 16384/1663|
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|rmgr: Transaction len (rec/tot): 66/ 66, tx: 574, lsn:
0/03000800, prev 0/030007D8, desc: COMMIT 2019-11-13 11:49:10.683426
CET; inval msgs: catcache 21; sync|
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We notice that the following log
|rmgr: Database len (rec/tot): 34/ 34, tx: 574, lsn:
0/030007D8, prev 0/03000768, desc: DROP dir 16384/1663|
is executed between the last commit that we are interested inand the
next record with a timestamp
|rmgr: Transaction len (rec/tot): 66/ 66, tx: 574, lsn:
0/03000800, prev 0/030007D8, desc: COMMIT 2019-11-13 11:49:10.683426
CET; inval msgs: catcache 21; sync|
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We understand that the drop database command is not transactional but
the drop dir is attached to the xact whose xid has a commit with
timestime out of recovery_target_time bound.
On the other hand, DBA role is to determine which at which xact recovery
should stop and define recovery_target_xid rather than
recovery_target_time.
Humans are prone to use natural things such as time to define "when" to
stop or start things.
We know that this rarely happens in production, because you can't drop a
database if users are still connected. But with the new force drop
database option, it might be a reasonable choice to improve the
situation with that recovery_target_time directive.
It turns out there are two different choices we can make :
* Change recovery behaviour in that case to prevent all xact
operation to perform until COMMIT timestamp is checked against
recovery_time bound (but it seems to be difficult as
state /messages/by-id/20141125160629.GC21475@msg.df7cb.dewhich
also identifies the problem and tries to give some solutions. Maybe
another way, as a trivial guess (all apologises) is to buffer
immediate xacts until we have the commit for each and apply the
whole buffer xact once the timestamp known (and checked agains
recovery_target_time value);
* The other way to improve this is to update PostgreSQL
documentation by specifying that recovery_target_time cannot be
used in this case.There should be multiple places where it can be
stated. The best one (if only one) seems to be in
https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/config.sgml;h=f83770350eda5625179526300c652f23ff29c9fe;hb=HEAD#l3400
We are willing to help on this case either with code patching or
documentation improvement.
Best regards,
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LOXODATA
Nicolas Lutic
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 18:48, Nicolas Lutic <n.lutic@loxodata.com> wrote:
Dear Hackers,
After a drop database
with FORCE?
, he tried to recover the data on the last inserted transaction by using
the recovery_target_time.
The issue is the database is present in the system catalog but the
directory was still deleted.
Here the technical information of the database
version 11
default postgresql.conf except for this options
wal_level = replica
archive_mode = on
archive_command = 'cp %p /tmp/wal_archive/%f '
log_statement = 'all'
log_min_messages = debug5The following method was used
- create cluster
- create database
- create 1 table
- create 1 index on 1 column
- insert 1 rows
- backup with pg_base_backup
- insert 2 rows
autocommit?
- drop database
force?
- Change recovery behaviour in that case to prevent all xact
operation to perform until COMMIT timestamp is checked against
recovery_time bound (but it seems to be difficult as state
/messages/by-id/20141125160629.GC21475@msg.df7cb.de
which also identifies the problem and tries to give some solutions. Maybe
another way, as a trivial guess (all apologises) is to buffer immediate
xacts until we have the commit for each and apply the whole buffer xact
once the timestamp known (and checked agains recovery_target_time value);- The other way to improve this is to update PostgreSQL
documentation by specifying that recovery_target_time cannot be used
in this case. There should be multiple places where it can be stated.
The best one (if only one) seems to be in
https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/config.sgml;h=
<https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/config.sgml;h=f83770350eda5625179526300c652f23ff29c9fe;hb=HEAD#l3400>
If this only happens when a DB is dropped under load with force, I lean
toward just documenting it as a corner case.
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Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
2ndQuadrant - PostgreSQL Solutions for the Enterprise
On 11/19/19 1:40 AM, Craig Ringer wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 18:48, Nicolas Lutic <n.lutic@loxodata.com
<mailto:n.lutic@loxodata.com>> wrote:Dear Hackers,
After a drop database
with FORCE?
No, we tested with PostgreSQL v 11 and we don't have this option.
, he tried to recover the data on the last inserted transaction by
using the recovery_target_time.
The issue is the database is present in the system catalog but the
directory was still deleted.
Here the technical information of the database
version 11
default postgresql.conf except for this options
wal_level = replica
archive_mode = on
archive_command = 'cp %p /tmp/wal_archive/%f '
log_statement = 'all'
log_min_messages = debug5
The following method was used* create cluster
* create database
* create 1 table
* create 1 index on 1 column
* insert 1 rows
* backup with pg_base_backup
* insert 2 rows
autocommit?
Yes, I forgot to mention it.
* drop database
force?
* Change recovery behaviour in that case to prevent all xact
operation to perform until COMMIT timestamp is checked against
recovery_time bound (but it seems to be difficult as
state /messages/by-id/20141125160629.GC21475@msg.df7cb.dewhich
also identifies the problem and tries to give some solutions.
Maybe another way, as a trivial guess (all apologises) is to
buffer immediate xacts until we have the commit for each and
apply the whole buffer xact once the timestamp known (and
checked agains recovery_target_time value);* The other way to improve this is to update PostgreSQL
documentation by specifying that recovery_target_time cannot be
used in this case.There should be multiple places where it can
be stated. The best one (if only one) seems to be in
https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/config.sgml;h=
<https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blob;f=doc/src/sgml/config.sgml;h=f83770350eda5625179526300c652f23ff29c9fe;hb=HEAD#l3400>If this only happens when a DB is dropped under load with force, I lean
toward just documenting it as a corner case.
This can happen in the case of a non-transactional instruction, DROP
DATABASE (with or without FORCE) is one case but there may be other cases ?
The documentation modification have to mention this case and list the
other most likely operations.
An idea, without insight knowledge of the code, in case of
recovery_target_time (only), would be to move forward each record for an
xact.
Each record that is «timestamped» can be applied but once we encounter a
non timestamped record we could buffer the following records for any
xaxts until a timestamped commit/rollback for the transaction where that
non transactionnal op appearsin. Once the commit/rollback records are
found, there's two options :
1) the commit/rollback timestamp is inside the "replay" bound, then the
whole buffer can be applied
2) the commit/rollback timestamp is beyond the upper time bound for
"replay", then the whole buffer for that transaction could be canceled.
This can only be done on DROP DATABASE "DELETE" operation ?
Maybe, this will lead to skewed pages and this is a wrong way to do such
a thing.
Another assumption is that "DROP DATABASE" sequence can be changed for
this operation to perform correctly.
We are aware that this part is tricky and will have little effects on
normal operations, as best practices are to use xid_target or lsn_target.
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Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
2ndQuadrant - PostgreSQL Solutions for the Enterprise
Best regards
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LOXODATA https://www.loxodata.com/
Consulting - Training - Support
Nicolas Lutic
Consultant trainer
Hello,
Le mar. 19 nov. 2019 à 16:15, Nicolas Lutic <n.lutic@loxodata.com> a écrit :
We are aware that this part is tricky and will have little effects on
normal operations, as best practices are to use xid_target or lsn_target.I'm working with Nicolas and we made some further testing. If we use xid
target with inclusive to false at the next xid after the insert, we end up
with the same DELETE/DROP directory behaviour which is quite confusing. One
have to choose the xid-1 value with inclusive behaviour to lake it work.
I assume this is the right first thing to document the behaviour. And give
some examples on this.
Maybe we could add some documentation in the xlog explanation and a warning
in the recovery_target_time and xid in guc doc ?
If there are better places in the docs let us know.
Thanks
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Jean-Christophe Arnu