Classes and Inheritance

Started by Thomas Swanover 25 years ago2 messages
#1Thomas Swan
tswan@olemiss.edu

I didn't know if this had made it to the list or not... if it has, please
excuse...

I've been trying to work on a system of using classes as a variation on
normalization of data.
However, I've run into a really frustrating problem. I had posted the
following but not in this form to the PGSQL SQL list.

From that posting...
--begin--
create table foo (id int8);
create table bar1 (name text) inherits (foo);
create table bar2 (data text) inherits (foo);
create table hybrid ( ) inherits (bar1, bar2);

INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1);
INSERT INTO bar1 VALUES (2,'myname');
INSERT INTO bar2 VALUES (3,'mydata');
INSERT INTO hybrid VALUES (4,'morename','moredata');

I want to do a SELECT * FROM foo*; but I only get the 'id' column as in :

id
---
1
2
3
4

What would be the query to get the following table or a magical way to
expand children without knowing the children's table names?

I had originally hoped that SELECT * FROM foo* would yield the following,
but it's not so.

id | name | data
---+------------+-------------
1 | null | null
2 | 'myname' | null
3 | null | 'mydata'
4 | 'morename' | 'moredata'
--end--

I can get the same result by doing the following query...

SELECT * FROM hybrid UNION \
(SELECT id,null,data FROM bar2) UNION \
(SELECT id,name,null FROM bar1) UNION \
(SELECT id,null,null FROM foo)

However, this doesn't allow for flexibility in the declaration of classes
as all queries have to be rewritten.

Proposal

What I would like to suggest although it may be too much or a little odd is
to have a way for the column listing to be expanded based on the
children. So far, I have been unable to construct a query or function
that would run through and expand all columns based on class/table name and
its' children and return a suitable union.

What if following a class/table by + did this.

For example the above query could be produced by the following statement:
SELECT * FROM foo+

The pattern I noticed it works best starting from the farthest child(ren)
since the mininum number of columns in a child is >= the number of columns
in the parent. However, I also observed this could be really awkward
depending on the number of columns ancestors had in addition to the depth
of the tree. In the example give below, the table "hybrid" was unique in
that it inherited all from a common set of parents. It would be different
if the farthest branches merged or if a branch contained a different data
type in the same column namespace.

I did figure a methodology on solving it:

1. get the relid of the table/class;
2. using pg_inherits, resolve all dependent children.
3. create an array of all columns (may be data type conflicts so either
resolve or error) {you could avoid conflicts with careful planning on names}
4. union all tables inserting nulls in non-available columns places.

Note: Step 2 might be easily facilitated if an array of immediate children
was available from pg_inherits table not just the parent, but then
inserting classes might be expensive. It's a thought...

This has been very frustrating even in trying to get information from the
pg_* system tables. And, ideally, a user should never have to look at
those although it is nice to such as in this case.

I'm afraid this all sounds like a complaint. Quite to the contrary, I've
been more than pleased with postgresql and what it has to offer and
continually look forward to newer releases, new features and improvements.

Thomas

-
- Thomas Swan
- Graduate Student - Computer Science
- The University of Mississippi
-
- "People can be categorized into two fundamental
- groups, those that divide people into two groups
- and those that don't."

#2Chris Bitmead
chrisb@nimrod.itg.telstra.com.au
In reply to: Thomas Swan (#1)
Re: Classes and Inheritance

Hi,

This is something that has been discussed extensively in the hackers
list in recent times (mostly by me :). It is a reasonably extensive
change, affecting front and back ends etc. The syntax suggested has been
something like "select ** from foo" or "select % from foo". The status
of it is I have done the changes to libpq, and am looking into the
backend situation. If you want to help out it would certainly be
welcome.

Thomas Swan wrote:

Show quoted text

I didn't know if this had made it to the list or not... if it has,
please excuse...

I've been trying to work on a system of using classes as a variation
on normalization of data.
However, I've run into a really frustrating problem. I had posted the
following but not in this form to the PGSQL SQL list.

From that posting...
--begin--

create table foo (id int8);
create table bar1 (name text) inherits (foo);
create table bar2 (data text) inherits (foo);
create table hybrid ( ) inherits (bar1, bar2);

INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1);
INSERT INTO bar1 VALUES (2,'myname');
INSERT INTO bar2 VALUES (3,'mydata');
INSERT INTO hybrid VALUES (4,'morename','moredata');

I want to do a SELECT * FROM foo*; but I only get the 'id' column
as in :

id
---
1
2
3
4

What would be the query to get the following table or a magical
way to expand children without knowing the children's table
names?

I had originally hoped that SELECT * FROM foo* would yield the
following, but it's not so.

id | name | data
---+------------+-------------
1 | null | null
2 | 'myname' | null
3 | null | 'mydata'
4 | 'morename' | 'moredata'

--end--

I can get the same result by doing the following query...

SELECT * FROM hybrid UNION \
(SELECT id,null,data FROM bar2) UNION \
(SELECT id,name,null FROM bar1) UNION \
(SELECT id,null,null FROM foo)

However, this doesn't allow for flexibility in the declaration of
classes as all queries have to be rewritten.

Proposal

What I would like to suggest although it may be too much or a little
odd is to have a way for the column listing to be expanded based on
the children. So far, I have been unable to construct a query or
function that would run through and expand all columns based on
class/table name and its' children and return a suitable union.

What if following a class/table by + did this.

For example the above query could be produced by the following
statement:
SELECT * FROM foo+

The pattern I noticed it works best starting from the farthest
child(ren) since the mininum number of columns in a child is >= the
number of columns in the parent. However, I also observed this could
be really awkward depending on the number of columns ancestors had in
addition to the depth of the tree. In the example give below, the
table "hybrid" was unique in that it inherited all from a common set
of parents. It would be different if the farthest branches merged or
if a branch contained a different data type in the same column
namespace.

I did figure a methodology on solving it:

1. get the relid of the table/class;
2. using pg_inherits, resolve all dependent children.
3. create an array of all columns (may be data type conflicts so
either resolve or error) {you could avoid conflicts with careful
planning on names}
4. union all tables inserting nulls in non-available columns places.

Note: Step 2 might be easily facilitated if an array of immediate
children was available from pg_inherits table not just the parent, but
then inserting classes might be expensive. It's a thought...

This has been very frustrating even in trying to get information from
the pg_* system tables. And, ideally, a user should never have to
look at those although it is nice to such as in this case.

I'm afraid this all sounds like a complaint. Quite to the contrary,
I've been more than pleased with postgresql and what it has to offer
and continually look forward to newer releases, new features and
improvements.

Thomas

-
- Thomas Swan
- Graduate Student - Computer Science
- The University of Mississippi
-
- "People can be categorized into two fundamental
- groups, those that divide people into two groups
- and those that don't."