Reword docs of feature "Remove temporary files after backend crash"
Hi,
The commit [1] for the feature "Remove temporary files after backend
crash" introduced following in the docs:
+ <para>
+ When set to <literal>on</literal>, which is the default,
+ <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> will automatically remove
+ temporary files after a backend crash. If disabled, the files will be
+ retained and may be used for debugging, for example. Repeated crashes
+ may however result in accumulation of useless files.
+ </para>
The term backend means the user sessions (see from the glossary, at
[2]: PG 14 - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/glossary.html#GLOSSARY-BACKEND
temp table removal gets hit not only after the backend crash, but also
after checkpointer, bg writer, wal writer, auto vac launcher, logical
repl launcher and so on. It is sort of misleading to the normal users.
With the commit [3]commit d3014fff4cd4dcaf4b2764d96ad038f3be7413b0 Author: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> Date: Mon Sep 20 12:22:02 2021 -0300 clarifying these processes in master branch [4]PG master - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/glossary.html,
do we also need to modify the doc added by commit [1]commit cd91de0d17952b5763466cfa663e98318f26d357 Author: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@postgresql.org> Date: Thu Mar 18 16:05:03 2021 +0100 in PG master at
least?
[1]: commit cd91de0d17952b5763466cfa663e98318f26d357 Author: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@postgresql.org> Date: Thu Mar 18 16:05:03 2021 +0100
Author: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@postgresql.org>
Date: Thu Mar 18 16:05:03 2021 +0100
Remove temporary files after backend crash
[2]: PG 14 - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/glossary.html#GLOSSARY-BACKEND
[3]: commit d3014fff4cd4dcaf4b2764d96ad038f3be7413b0 Author: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> Date: Mon Sep 20 12:22:02 2021 -0300
Author: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Date: Mon Sep 20 12:22:02 2021 -0300
Doc: add glossary term for "auxiliary process"
[4]: PG master - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/glossary.html
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Bharath Rupireddy
<bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The commit [1] for the feature "Remove temporary files after backend crash" introduced following in the docs: + <para> + When set to <literal>on</literal>, which is the default, + <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> will automatically remove + temporary files after a backend crash. If disabled, the files will be + retained and may be used for debugging, for example. Repeated crashes + may however result in accumulation of useless files. + </para>The term backend means the user sessions (see from the glossary, at
[2]). It looks like the code introduced by the commit [1] i.e. the
temp table removal gets hit not only after the backend crash, but also
after checkpointer, bg writer, wal writer, auto vac launcher, logical
repl launcher and so on. It is sort of misleading to the normal users.
With the commit [3] clarifying these processes in master branch [4],
do we also need to modify the doc added by commit [1] in PG master at
least?[1] commit cd91de0d17952b5763466cfa663e98318f26d357
Author: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@postgresql.org>
Date: Thu Mar 18 16:05:03 2021 +0100Remove temporary files after backend crash
[2] PG 14 - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/glossary.html#GLOSSARY-BACKEND
[3] commit d3014fff4cd4dcaf4b2764d96ad038f3be7413b0
Author: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Date: Mon Sep 20 12:22:02 2021 -0300Doc: add glossary term for "auxiliary process"
[4] PG master - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/glossary.html
Here's the patch modifying the docs slightly. Please review it.
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
Attachments:
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From 12e03652992944217fa581117374d9734cfa3183 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 15:20:59 +0000
Subject: [PATCH v1] Reword docs of feature "Remove temporary files after
backend crash"
Commit cd91de0d17 for the feature "Remove temporary files after
backend crash" mentions that the temp files get cleaned after a
backend crash. But the temp files cleanup happens not only after
a backend crash but also after an auxiliary process (except
syslogger and stats collector) crash. The existing docs are sort
of misleading. With the glossary defining what a backend is and
the commit d3014fff defining the auxiliary processes, this patch
slightly adjusts the docs introduced by the commit cd91de0d17.
---
doc/src/sgml/config.sgml | 13 ++++++++-----
1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
index 0a8e35c59f..67691bf982 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
@@ -11012,11 +11012,14 @@ LOG: CleanUpLock: deleting: lock(0xb7acd844) id(24688,24696,0,0,0,1)
<para>
When set to <literal>on</literal>, which is the default,
<productname>PostgreSQL</productname> will automatically remove
- temporary files after a backend crash. If disabled, the files will be
- retained and may be used for debugging, for example. Repeated crashes
- may however result in accumulation of useless files. This parameter
- can only be set in the <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> file or on
- the server command line.
+ temporary files after a <glossterm linkend="glossary-backend">backend</glossterm>
+ or an <glossterm linkend="glossary-auxiliary-proc">auxiliary process</glossterm>
+ (except the <glossterm linkend="glossary-logger">logger</glossterm> and
+ the <glossterm linkend="glossary-stats-collector">statistics collector</glossterm>)
+ crash. If disabled, the files will be retained and may be used for
+ debugging, for example. Repeated crashes may however result in
+ accumulation of useless files. This parameter can only be set in the
+ <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> file or on the server command line.
</para>
</listitem>
</varlistentry>
--
2.25.1
On Sat, Oct 09, 2021 at 09:18:24PM +0530, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 4:27 PM Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The commit [1] for the feature "Remove temporary files after backend crash" introduced following in the docs: + <para> + When set to <literal>on</literal>, which is the default, + <productname>PostgreSQL</productname> will automatically remove + temporary files after a backend crash. If disabled, the files will be + retained and may be used for debugging, for example. Repeated crashes + may however result in accumulation of useless files. + </para>The term backend means the user sessions (see from the glossary, at
[2]). It looks like the code introduced by the commit [1] i.e. the
temp table removal gets hit not only after the backend crash, but also
after checkpointer, bg writer, wal writer, auto vac launcher, logical
repl launcher and so on. It is sort of misleading to the normal users.
With the commit [3] clarifying these processes in master branch [4],
do we also need to modify the doc added by commit [1] in PG master at
least?[1] commit cd91de0d17952b5763466cfa663e98318f26d357
Author: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@postgresql.org>
Date: Thu Mar 18 16:05:03 2021 +0100Remove temporary files after backend crash
[2] PG 14 - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/glossary.html#GLOSSARY-BACKEND
[3] commit d3014fff4cd4dcaf4b2764d96ad038f3be7413b0
Author: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Date: Mon Sep 20 12:22:02 2021 -0300Doc: add glossary term for "auxiliary process"
[4] PG master - https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/glossary.html
Here's the patch modifying the docs slightly. Please review it.
I doubt there's much confusion here - crashes are treated the same. I think
the fix would be to say "server crash" rather than backend crash.
--
Justin
On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:42 PM Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com> wrote:
I doubt there's much confusion here - crashes are treated the same. I think
the fix would be to say "server crash" rather than backend crash.
IIUC, the "server crash" includes any backend, auxiliary process,
postmaster crash i.e. database cluster/instance crash. The commit
cd91de0d1 especially added the temp file cleanup support if any
backend or auxiliary process (except syslogger and stats collector)
crashes. The temp file cleanup in postmaster crash does exist prior to
the commit cd91de0d1.
When we add the description about the new GUC introduced by the commit
cd91de0d1, let's be clear as to which crash triggers the new temp file
cleanup path.
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
On 2021/10/10 1:25, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:42 PM Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com> wrote:
I doubt there's much confusion here - crashes are treated the same. I think
the fix would be to say "server crash" rather than backend crash.IIUC, the "server crash" includes any backend, auxiliary process,
postmaster crash i.e. database cluster/instance crash. The commit
cd91de0d1 especially added the temp file cleanup support if any
backend or auxiliary process (except syslogger and stats collector)
Also the startup process should be in this exception list?
crashes. The temp file cleanup in postmaster crash does exist prior to
the commit cd91de0d1.When we add the description about the new GUC introduced by the commit
cd91de0d1, let's be clear as to which crash triggers the new temp file
cleanup path.
If we really want to add this information, the description of
restart_after_crash seems more proper place to do that in.
remove_temp_files_after_crash works only when the processes are
reinitialized because restart_after_crash is enabled.
Regards,
--
Fujii Masao
Advanced Computing Technology Center
Research and Development Headquarters
NTT DATA CORPORATION
On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 9:12 AM Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
On 2021/10/10 1:25, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:42 PM Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com> wrote:
I doubt there's much confusion here - crashes are treated the same. I think
the fix would be to say "server crash" rather than backend crash.IIUC, the "server crash" includes any backend, auxiliary process,
postmaster crash i.e. database cluster/instance crash. The commit
cd91de0d1 especially added the temp file cleanup support if any
backend or auxiliary process (except syslogger and stats collector)Also the startup process should be in this exception list?
Yes, if the startup process fails, neither restart_after_crash nor
remove_temp_files_after_crash code path is hit.
crashes. The temp file cleanup in postmaster crash does exist prior to
the commit cd91de0d1.When we add the description about the new GUC introduced by the commit
cd91de0d1, let's be clear as to which crash triggers the new temp file
cleanup path.If we really want to add this information, the description of
restart_after_crash seems more proper place to do that in.
remove_temp_files_after_crash works only when the processes are
reinitialized because restart_after_crash is enabled.
IMO, we can add the new description as proposed in my v1 patch (after
adding startup process to the exception list) to both the GUCs
restart_after_crash and remove_temp_files_after_crash. And, in
remove_temp_files_after_crash GUC description we can just add a note
saying "this GUC is effective only when restart_after_crash is on".
Also, I see that the restart_after_crash and
remove_temp_files_after_crash descriptions in guc.c say "Remove
temporary files after backend crash.". I think we can also modify them
to "Remove temporary files after the backend or auxiliary process
(except startup, syslogger and stats collector) crash.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
On 2021/10/10 22:33, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
IIUC, the "server crash" includes any backend, auxiliary process,
postmaster crash i.e. database cluster/instance crash. The commit
cd91de0d1 especially added the temp file cleanup support if any
backend or auxiliary process (except syslogger and stats collector)
We should mention not only a backend and an auxiliary processe
but also background worker? Because, per Glossary, background worker
is neither a backend nor an auxiliary process. Instead,
maybe it's better to use "child processes" or something rather than
mentioning those three processes.
IMO, we can add the new description as proposed in my v1 patch (after
adding startup process to the exception list) to both the GUCs
restart_after_crash and remove_temp_files_after_crash. And, in
remove_temp_files_after_crash GUC description we can just add a note
saying "this GUC is effective only when restart_after_crash is on".
OK.
Also, I see that the restart_after_crash and
remove_temp_files_after_crash descriptions in guc.c say "Remove
temporary files after backend crash.". I think we can also modify them
to "Remove temporary files after the backend or auxiliary process
(except startup, syslogger and stats collector) crash.
I'm not sure if we really need this long log message.
IMO it's enough to add that information in the docs.
Regards,
--
Fujii Masao
Advanced Computing Technology Center
Research and Development Headquarters
NTT DATA CORPORATION
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:37 AM Fujii Masao
<masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
On 2021/10/10 22:33, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
IIUC, the "server crash" includes any backend, auxiliary process,
postmaster crash i.e. database cluster/instance crash. The commit
cd91de0d1 especially added the temp file cleanup support if any
backend or auxiliary process (except syslogger and stats collector)We should mention not only a backend and an auxiliary processe
but also background worker? Because, per Glossary, background worker
is neither a backend nor an auxiliary process. Instead,
maybe it's better to use "child processes" or something rather than
mentioning those three processes.
If we were to use child processes (a term the glossary doesn't
define), we might end up saying postmaster child process crash, that's
not enough. We have to say things like "child process (except startup,
syslogger and stats collector) crash." IMO, let's not introduce
another term for the processes, the glossary defines many kinds of
processes already.
Also, I see that the restart_after_crash and
remove_temp_files_after_crash descriptions in guc.c say "Remove
temporary files after backend crash.". I think we can also modify them
to "Remove temporary files after the backend or auxiliary process
(except startup, syslogger and stats collector) crash.I'm not sure if we really need this long log message.
IMO it's enough to add that information in the docs.
IMO let's be clear here as well for consistency reasons. I've seen
some of the long descriptions for GUCs [1]gettext_noop("Sets whether a WAL receiver should create a temporary replication slot if no permanent slot is configured."), gettext_noop("Writes full pages to WAL when first modified after a checkpoint, even for a non-critical modification.") gettext_noop("Enables backward compatibility mode for privilege checks on large objects.") gettext_noop("Forces a switch to the next WAL file if a " "new file has not been started within N seconds."),. And it seems like we don't
have any tex
So, the text for remove_temp_files_after_crash will be : "Remove
temporary files after backend or auxiliary process (except startup,
syslogger and stats collector) or background worker crash."
and for restart_after_crash: "Reinitialize server after backend crash
or auxiliary process (except startup, syslogger and stats collector)
or background worker crash."
I noticed another thing that the remove_temp_files_after_crash is
categorized as DEVELOPER_OPTIONS, shouldn't it be under
RESOURCES_DISK?
[1]: gettext_noop("Sets whether a WAL receiver should create a temporary replication slot if no permanent slot is configured."), gettext_noop("Writes full pages to WAL when first modified after a checkpoint, even for a non-critical modification.") gettext_noop("Enables backward compatibility mode for privilege checks on large objects.") gettext_noop("Forces a switch to the next WAL file if a " "new file has not been started within N seconds."),
gettext_noop("Sets whether a WAL receiver should create a temporary
replication slot if no permanent slot is configured."),
gettext_noop("Writes full pages to WAL when first modified after a
checkpoint, even for a non-critical modification.")
gettext_noop("Enables backward compatibility mode for privilege checks
on large objects.")
gettext_noop("Forces a switch to the next WAL file if a "
"new file has not been started within N seconds."),
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 12:50:28PM +0530, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
I noticed another thing that the remove_temp_files_after_crash is
categorized as DEVELOPER_OPTIONS, shouldn't it be under
RESOURCES_DISK?
The old behavior of leaving the tempfiles behind isn't expected to be useful to
uses, and the only reason to keep them was to allow debugging.
Putting it in DEVELOPER means that it's not in the user-facing
postgresql.conf.sample.
--
Justin
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 2:53 PM Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 12:50:28PM +0530, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
I noticed another thing that the remove_temp_files_after_crash is
categorized as DEVELOPER_OPTIONS, shouldn't it be under
RESOURCES_DISK?The old behavior of leaving the tempfiles behind isn't expected to be useful to
uses, and the only reason to keep them was to allow debugging.Putting it in DEVELOPER means that it's not in the user-facing
postgresql.conf.sample.
Thanks.
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 11:37 AM Fujii Masao
<masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
IMO, we can add the new description as proposed in my v1 patch (after
adding startup process to the exception list) to both the GUCs
restart_after_crash and remove_temp_files_after_crash. And, in
remove_temp_files_after_crash GUC description we can just add a note
saying "this GUC is effective only when restart_after_crash is on".OK.
Here's a v2 patch that I could come up with. Please review it further.
I've also made a CF entry - https://commitfest.postgresql.org/35/3356/
Regards,
Bharath Rupireddy.
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From 702cbe2280fb909daac732b76eb7ea34909d8a89 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 06:29:08 +0000
Subject: [PATCH v2] Reword docs of GUCs restart_after_crash and
remove_temp_files_after_crash
Let us be specific about the type of different postgres processes
that make GUCs restart_after_crash and remove_temp_files_after_crash
effective. Currently, these GUCs specify that only after a backend
crashes these GUCs will kick-in, but it is not only after a backend
crash, but also after an auxiliary process(except startup, sys logger
and stats collector) or a background worker crash too. With the recent
definitions added in the glossary by the commit d3014fff for auxiliary
processes, be more descriptive and clear about the GUCs docs.
---
doc/src/sgml/config.sgml | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++--------
src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c | 6 ++++--
2 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
index 0a8e35c59f..2751b5f71b 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
@@ -9924,9 +9924,14 @@ dynamic_library_path = 'C:\tools\postgresql;H:\my_project\lib;$libdir'
<listitem>
<para>
When set to on, which is the default, <productname>PostgreSQL</productname>
- will automatically reinitialize after a backend crash. Leaving this
- value set to on is normally the best way to maximize the availability
- of the database. However, in some circumstances, such as when
+ will automatically reinitialize after a <glossterm linkend="glossary-backend">backend</glossterm>
+ or an <glossterm linkend="glossary-auxiliary-proc">auxiliary process</glossterm>
+ (except the <glossterm linkend="glossary-startup-process">startup process</glossterm>,
+ <glossterm linkend="glossary-logger">logger</glossterm> and the
+ <glossterm linkend="glossary-stats-collector">statistics collector</glossterm>)
+ or a <glossterm linkend="glossary-background-worker">background worker</glossterm>
+ crash. Leaving this value set to on is normally the best way to maximize the
+ availability of the database. However, in some circumstances, such as when
<productname>PostgreSQL</productname> is being invoked by clusterware, it may be
useful to disable the restart so that the clusterware can gain
control and take any actions it deems appropriate.
@@ -11012,11 +11017,18 @@ LOG: CleanUpLock: deleting: lock(0xb7acd844) id(24688,24696,0,0,0,1)
<para>
When set to <literal>on</literal>, which is the default,
<productname>PostgreSQL</productname> will automatically remove
- temporary files after a backend crash. If disabled, the files will be
- retained and may be used for debugging, for example. Repeated crashes
- may however result in accumulation of useless files. This parameter
- can only be set in the <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> file or on
- the server command line.
+ temporary files after a <glossterm linkend="glossary-backend">backend</glossterm>
+ or an <glossterm linkend="glossary-auxiliary-proc">auxiliary process</glossterm>
+ (except the <glossterm linkend="glossary-startup-process">startup process</glossterm>,
+ <glossterm linkend="glossary-logger">logger</glossterm> and
+ the <glossterm linkend="glossary-stats-collector">statistics collector</glossterm>)
+ or a <glossterm linkend="glossary-background-worker">background worker</glossterm>
+ crash. If disabled, the files will be retained and may be used for
+ debugging, for example. Repeated crashes may however result in
+ accumulation of useless files. This parameter can only be set in the
+ <filename>postgresql.conf</filename> file or on the server command line
+ and it will be effective only when <xref linkend="guc-restart-after-crash"/>
+ is set to <literal>on</literal>.
</para>
</listitem>
</varlistentry>
diff --git a/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c b/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
index d2ce4a8450..887b7b5379 100644
--- a/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
+++ b/src/backend/utils/misc/guc.c
@@ -1404,7 +1404,8 @@ static struct config_bool ConfigureNamesBool[] =
},
{
{"restart_after_crash", PGC_SIGHUP, ERROR_HANDLING_OPTIONS,
- gettext_noop("Reinitialize server after backend crash."),
+ gettext_noop("Reinitialize server after backend or auxiliary process (except "
+ "startup, syslogger and stats collector) or background worker crash."),
NULL
},
&restart_after_crash,
@@ -1413,7 +1414,8 @@ static struct config_bool ConfigureNamesBool[] =
},
{
{"remove_temp_files_after_crash", PGC_SIGHUP, DEVELOPER_OPTIONS,
- gettext_noop("Remove temporary files after backend crash."),
+ gettext_noop("Remove temporary files after backend or auxiliary process (except "
+ "startup, syslogger and stats collector) or background worker crash."),
NULL,
GUC_NOT_IN_SAMPLE
},
--
2.25.1
On 12 Oct 2021, at 08:40, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's a v2 patch that I could come up with. Please review it further.
+ debugging, for example. Repeated crashes may however result in
+ accumulation of useless files. This parameter can only be set in the
I think "useless" is a bit too strong and subjective given that it's describing
an unknown situation out of the ordinary. How about "outdated" or "redundant"
(or something else entirely which is even better)?
I've also made a CF entry - https://commitfest.postgresql.org/35/3356/
This has been sitting the CF for quite some time, time to make a decision on
it. I think it makes sense, having detailed docs around debugging is rarely a
bad thing. Does anyone else have opinions?
--
Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 9:42 AM Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se> wrote:
I think "useless" is a bit too strong and subjective given that it's describing
an unknown situation out of the ordinary. How about "outdated" or "redundant"
(or something else entirely which is even better)?
It's the existing wording, though, and unrelated to the changes the
patch is trying to make. It also seems accurate to me.
I've also made a CF entry - https://commitfest.postgresql.org/35/3356/
This has been sitting the CF for quite some time, time to make a decision on
it. I think it makes sense, having detailed docs around debugging is rarely a
bad thing. Does anyone else have opinions?
I don't like it. It seems to me that it will result in a lot of
duplication in the docs, because every time we talk about something
that happens in connection with a crash, we'll need to talk about this
same list of exceptions. It would be reasonable to document which
conditions trigger a crash-and-restart cycle and which do not in some
centralized place, but not in every place where we mention crashing.
--
Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
On 1 Apr 2022, at 15:57, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 9:42 AM Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se> wrote:
This has been sitting the CF for quite some time, time to make a decision on
it. I think it makes sense, having detailed docs around debugging is rarely a
bad thing. Does anyone else have opinions?I don't like it. It seems to me that it will result in a lot of
duplication in the docs, because every time we talk about something
that happens in connection with a crash, we'll need to talk about this
same list of exceptions.
Fair enough, that's a valid concern. Unless others object I then think we
should close this patch in the CF as rejected.
--
Daniel Gustafsson https://vmware.com/