Is OpenSSL AES-NI not available in pgcrypto?

Started by agharta82@gmail.comabout 3 years ago5 messages
#1agharta82@gmail.com
agharta82@gmail.com

Hi all,

A question, may I wrong.

I've a Rocky Linux 8 with OpenSSL 1.1.1 FIPS  and Intel cpu with aes
support (cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep aes)

Test made with openssl gives me a huge performance with aes enabled vs not:

"openssl speed -elapsed -evp aes-128-cbc" is about 5 time faster than
"openssl speed -elapsed aes-128-cbc" or another "software calculated
test", eg. "openssl speed -elapsed bf-cbc"

So OpenSSL is ok.

Postgresql 15 is compiled with openssl:

select name, setting from pg_settings where name = 'ssl_library';
    name     | setting
-------------+---------
 ssl_library | OpenSSL
(1 row)

So, a test with pgcrypto:

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd') --default to aes128
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp,
'1 hour'::interval) data

vs

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd','cipher-algo=bf') -- blowfish
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp,
'1 hour'::interval) data

In my test both queries execution is similar....aes-128 was expected
about  5 time faster.

So, why?

Pgcrypto use OpenSSL as backend, so, does it explicit force software aes
calculation instead of AES-NI cpu ones?

Thanksfor support.

Best regards,

Agharta

#2Peter Eisentraut
peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com
In reply to: agharta82@gmail.com (#1)
Re: Is OpenSSL AES-NI not available in pgcrypto?

On 02.01.23 17:57, agharta82@gmail.com wrote:

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd') --default to aes128
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp,
'1 hour'::interval) data

vs

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd','cipher-algo=bf') -- blowfish
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp,
'1 hour'::interval) data

In my test both queries execution is similar....aes-128 was expected
about  5 time faster.

So, why?

Pgcrypto use OpenSSL as backend, so, does it explicit force software aes
calculation instead of AES-NI cpu ones?

I suspect it is actually using AES hardware support, but all the other
overhead of pgcrypto makes the difference not noticeable.

#3agharta82@gmail.com
agharta82@gmail.com
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#2)
Re: Is OpenSSL AES-NI not available in pgcrypto?

Hi,

I see, I was hoping that wasn't the case.

Thanks a lot for your support.

My best regards,

Agharta

Il 03/01/23 16:54, Peter Eisentraut ha scritto:

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On 02.01.23 17:57, agharta82@gmail.com wrote:

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd') --default to aes128
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp,
'2022-12-31'::timestamp, '1 hour'::interval) data

vs

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd','cipher-algo=bf') -- blowfish
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp,
'2022-12-31'::timestamp, '1 hour'::interval) data

In my test both queries execution is similar....aes-128 was expected
about  5 time faster.

So, why?

Pgcrypto use OpenSSL as backend, so, does it explicit force software
aes calculation instead of AES-NI cpu ones?

I suspect it is actually using AES hardware support, but all the other
overhead of pgcrypto makes the difference not noticeable.

#4Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: agharta82@gmail.com (#1)
Re: Is OpenSSL AES-NI not available in pgcrypto?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 05:57:38PM +0100, agharta82@gmail.com wrote:

So, a test with pgcrypto:

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd') --default to aes128
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp, '1
hour'::interval) data

vs

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd','cipher-algo=bf') -- blowfish
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp, '1
hour'::interval) data

To see the difference, I think you need to construct a single large
query that calls many pgcrypto functions, with a small return result, so
the network, parsing, and optimizer overhead are minimal compared to the
OpenSSL overhread.

--
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EDB https://enterprisedb.com

Embrace your flaws. They make you human, rather than perfect,
which you will never be.

#5agharta agharta
agharta82@gmail.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#4)
Re: Is OpenSSL AES-NI not available in pgcrypto?

Hi Bruce,
Thanks for reply.

I've give up: i've found a slide in percona site about pgcrypto that said
the developers of plugin intentionally introduces time consuming code to
prevent brute force attacks.

My queries involves pgcrypto only in a small number of record (about 2000),
so at the end the execution time remains the same....sadly.

Now my hopes are now in TDE. Hope to see that feature in PostgrSQL soon.

Many thanks again for support to all!

Have a nice day,
Agharta

Il sab 7 gen 2023, 03:13 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> ha scritto:

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On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 05:57:38PM +0100, agharta82@gmail.com wrote:

So, a test with pgcrypto:

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd') --default to aes128
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp, '1
hour'::interval) data

vs

select pgp_sym_encrypt(data::text, 'pwd','cipher-algo=bf') -- blowfish
from generate_series('2022-01-01'::timestamp, '2022-12-31'::timestamp, '1
hour'::interval) data

To see the difference, I think you need to construct a single large
query that calls many pgcrypto functions, with a small return result, so
the network, parsing, and optimizer overhead are minimal compared to the
OpenSSL overhread.

--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com

Embrace your flaws. They make you human, rather than perfect,
which you will never be.