PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

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#1The Hermit Hacker
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For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

A full list of changes to v7.2 can be found in the HISTORY file,
included with the release, as well as under all ftp mirrors as:

/pub/README.v7_2

Highlights of this release are as follows:

VACUUM
Vacuuming no longer locks tables, thus allowing normal user
access during the vacuum. A new "VACUUM FULL" command does
old-style vacuum by locking the table and shrinking the on-disk
copy of the table.

Transactions
There is no longer a problem with installations that exceed
four billion transactions.

OID's
OID's are now optional. Users can now create tables without
OID's for cases where OID usage is excessive.

Optimizer
The system now computes histogram column statistics during
"ANALYZE", allowing much better optimizer choices.

Security
A new MD5 encryption option allows more secure storage and
transfer of passwords. A new Unix-domain socket authentication
option is available on Linux and BSD systems.

Statistics
Administrators can use the new table access statistics module
to get fine-grained information about table and index usage.

Internationalization
Program and library messages can now be displayed in several
languages.

.. with many many more bug fixes, enhancements and performance
related changes ...

Source for this release is available on all mirrors under:

/pub/source/v7.2

As always, any bugs with this release should be reported to
pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org ... and, as with all point releases, this
release requires a complete dump and reload from previous releases, due to
internal structure changes ...

Marc G. Fournier
Co-ordinator
PostgreSQL Global Development Group

In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#1)
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

RPMs for Red Hat Linux 7.2 can be found at http://people.redhat.com/teg/pg/

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Trond Eivind Glomsr�d
Red Hat, Inc.

#3Hannu Krosing
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 18:15, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

RPMs for Red Hat Linux 7.2 can be found at http://people.redhat.com/teg/pg/

Why is just plperl included ?

What about pl/python and pl/tcl (I hope pl/pgsql is there somewhere) ?

--------------
Hannu

In reply to: Hannu Krosing (#3)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 18:15, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

RPMs for Red Hat Linux 7.2 can be found at http://people.redhat.com/teg/pg/

Why is just plperl included ?

What about pl/python

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

and pl/tcl (I hope pl/pgsql is there somewhere) ?

The postgresql-tcl package contains that, FTTB, but tcl is pretty much
dead anyway...
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#5Lamar Owen
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In reply to: Hannu Krosing (#3)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tuesday 05 February 2002 12:07 pm, Hannu Krosing wrote:

Why is just plperl included ?

What about pl/python and pl/tcl (I hope pl/pgsql is there somewhere) ?

pl/pgsql is in the base server package.
pl/tcl is in the tcl subpackage, although that might not be a good thing.

What is required to build pl/python? Last I heard is was halfway
experimental?
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#6Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@wgcr.org
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tuesday 05 February 2002 12:11 pm, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:

What about pl/python

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

Oh, I'm building NLS-capable RPM's as I write this; expect an upload shortly.
The NLS file list mechanism munged the execute permission for the initscript,
so I had to track that down before release. Hopefully this last build will
have the right perms.

I even have the release announcement composed in kmail waiting for a fully
successful build.....
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1 Peter 4:11

In reply to: Lamar Owen (#6)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Lamar Owen wrote:

On Tuesday 05 February 2002 12:11 pm, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:

What about pl/python

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.

FWIW, the python rpms in Rawhide have static libraries, but are compiled
with -fPIC. Thus, they can actually be used in this way...

Oh, I'm building NLS-capable RPM's as I write this; expect an upload shortly.
The NLS file list mechanism munged the execute permission for the initscript,
so I had to track that down before release. Hopefully this last build will
have the right perms.

I need to sync up after that, before I do some more fixes to the
initscript.

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Trond Eivind Glomsr�d
Red Hat, Inc.

#8D'Arcy J.M. Cain
darcy@druid.net
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

* Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org> [020205 11:10]:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

Woo hoo!

Can I start putting changes into the PyGreSQL module or do we want to
give it a few days to shake the immediate bugs out?

Kudos all around, btw. This looks like a really nice release.

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#9Hannu Krosing
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In reply to: Trond Eivind Glomsrød (#4)
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 19:11, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 18:15, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

RPMs for Red Hat Linux 7.2 can be found at http://people.redhat.com/teg/pg/

Why is just plperl included ?

What about pl/python

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

Does that mean that one can't run pl/python on Redhat 7.2 ??

I was hoping that all the work that went into fixing various flaws in
pl/python during 7.2 development would result in it being available in
binary distributions too...

-----------------
Hannu

In reply to: Hannu Krosing (#9)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On 5 Feb 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote:

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 19:11, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 18:15, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

RPMs for Red Hat Linux 7.2 can be found at http://people.redhat.com/teg/pg/

Why is just plperl included ?

What about pl/python

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

Does that mean that one can't run pl/python on Redhat 7.2 ??

On IA32, it will work (with a performance penalty, "thou shall not use
static libraries in dynamic extensions"), on other archs (alpha, IA64,
S/390) it will die.

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#11tony
tony@animaproductions.com
In reply to: Trond Eivind Glomsrød (#4)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 18:11, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

The postgresql-tcl package contains that, FTTB, but tcl is pretty much
dead anyway...

So all of us who have been using tcl for years and are comfortable with
it should just forget about it maybe? Tcl the best kept secret of the
internet...

Cheers

Tony Grant

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#12Hannu Krosing
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 19:51, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

On 5 Feb 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote:

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 19:11, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

Hannu Krosing <hannu@tm.ee> writes:

On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 18:15, Trond Eivind Glomsr�d wrote:

"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:

For Immediate Release February 5th, 2002

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

RPMs for Red Hat Linux 7.2 can be found at http://people.redhat.com/teg/pg/

Why is just plperl included ?

What about pl/python

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

Does that mean that one can't run pl/python on Redhat 7.2 ??

On IA32, it will work (with a performance penalty, "thou shall not use
static libraries in dynamic extensions"),

Any estimate how big the penalty is ?

Also is it just a load-time penalty or continuous ?

-------------
Hannu

#13Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: D'Arcy J.M. Cain (#8)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> writes:

Can I start putting changes into the PyGreSQL module or do we want to
give it a few days to shake the immediate bugs out?

Don't check in any 7.3 development until we split off a CVS branch for
7.2 maintenance. We'll probably wait at least a week before we do that;
longer if it looks like there are lots of problems...

regards, tom lane

#14Brett Schwarz
brett_schwarz@yahoo.com
In reply to: Trond Eivind Glomsrød (#4)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

and pl/tcl (I hope pl/pgsql is there somewhere) ?

The postgresql-tcl package contains that, FTTB, but tcl is pretty much
dead anyway...

Please refrain from language flames...the pgsql lists are exceptional
lists that really don't need this pollution.

thanks,

--brett

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#15Randal L. Schwartz
merlyn@stonehenge.com
In reply to: Trond Eivind Glomsrød (#10)
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Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

"Trond" == Trond Eivind Glomsr�d <teg@redhat.com> writes:

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

Does that mean that one can't run pl/python on Redhat 7.2 ??

Trond> On IA32, it will work (with a performance penalty, "thou shall not use
Trond> static libraries in dynamic extensions"), on other archs (alpha, IA64,
Trond> S/390) it will die.

On Darwin, linking a static libperl.a works just fine, although it
creates a libperl.dynlib, which I had to symlink to libperl.so to get
it to load.

Woo hoo. Embedded Perl. On #perl, we were already discussing having
a Pg process put up a web-socket, or proxy through to another database
with DBI. OK, we're crazy.

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#16Matthew Rice
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teg@redhat.com (Trond Eivind Glomsr�d) writes:

... but tcl is pretty much dead anyway...

You have no idea how wrong you are.
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#17Peter Eisentraut
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

Marc G. Fournier writes:

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

Are you going to put some announcements on web sites such as freshmeat,
linuxpr, bsdtoday?

--
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#18The Hermit Hacker
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

working through those today ...

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Show quoted text

Marc G. Fournier writes:

After almost a full year of development since PostgreSQL v7.1 was
released, the PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the
availability of our latest development milestone ... PostgreSQL v7.2,
another step forward for the project.

Are you going to put some announcements on web sites such as freshmeat,
linuxpr, bsdtoday?

--
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#19Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@wgcr.org
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Re: PostgreSQL v7.2 Final Release

[after delays....]
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 11:01 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

Source for this release is available on all mirrors under:

/pub/source/v7.2

RPMs for PostgreSQL 7.2 available as soon as the mirrors propagate in
/pub/binary/v7.2/RPMS

BIG NOTE:
Due to RPM's versioning scheme, and my unwillingness to further obfuscate the
versioning with Epoch or Serial tags, if you have be running the beta or
release candidate RPMs of 7.2 you will need to use the '--oldpackage' switch
to the rpm command line.

Please read the README.rpm-dist and CHANGELOG files in the above referenced
directory for more information.

Bug reports to either pgsql-bugs or pgsql-ports, please.

RPMs for redhat-6.2 will be available shortly. Note that you may need to
update OS utilities to rebuild from source on Red Hat 6.2. An updated patch
utility is known to be necessary.

Sorry for the delay in getting these posted -- I had them built yesterday
morning, but couldn't upload to ftp.postgresql.org dueto some server problem
there.
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#20mlw
markw@mohawksoft.com
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Brett Schwarz wrote:

There is no shared python library. Linking in static libraries in
dynamic extensions doesn't work on most platforms.

and pl/tcl (I hope pl/pgsql is there somewhere) ?

The postgresql-tcl package contains that, FTTB, but tcl is pretty much
dead anyway...

Please refrain from language flames...the pgsql lists are exceptional
lists that really don't need this pollution.

You think language flames are bad? Try the perennial GPL vs BSD flame.
Every few months or so we have a storm of hundreds of posts proclaiming
the merits of GPL or BSD. A language debate would be mild by comparison.

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