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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

Hi all,

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Already being worked on ...

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This
could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...

could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...

What method will be employed instead?

Gavin

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

Hi all,

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Your point?

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could
be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has
the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could
be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of
that many IP blocks too.

Vince.
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Hi,

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This
could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where to go. If I
feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and bookmark if
I want.
(random??? brbrbrbrbr) :)

C.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

Hi all,

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Your point?

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could
be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has
the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could
be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of
that many IP blocks too.

I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
or ignores the cookie.

Ross

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

Hi all,

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this has
been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Your point?

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This could
be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and has
the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it could
be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of
that many IP blocks too.

I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
or ignores the cookie.

Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it.

Vince.
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:26:55AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:

I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
or ignores the cookie.

Or choose the mirror that works best for you and bookmark it.

Of course, that's what _I_ do, but the dicussion was how to make the
frontpage 'user friendly' and 'professional'. Lots of global corps. do
the 'pick your geographical region' thing, but mainly for sales reasons,
so it must be professional, right?

Ross

Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au> writes:

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional.

I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the
justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites
(AFAIK) have ads on them?

Cheers,

Neil

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Neil Conway wrote:

Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au> writes:

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional.

I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the
justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites
(AFAIK) have ads on them?

I wondered that myself.

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Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 03:59:33AM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Gavin Sherry wrote:

Hi all,

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking

the

user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional. I am sure this

has

been discussed before but I thought I would bring it up again anyway.

Your point?

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This

could

be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough and

has

the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or it

could

be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Been there, done that, didn't work. Too much of a job to keep track of
that many IP blocks too.

I'd suggest setting a cookie, so I only see the 'pick a mirror' the
first time. And provide a link to 'pick a different mirror' that resets
or ignores the cookie.

If I had a vote, I would vote +1 for this option. I think it's easy to
implement and shouldn't have negative effects on performance.

Regards,
Michael Paesold

On 24 Sep 2002, Neil Conway wrote:

Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au> writes:

It occurs to me that opening web page on www.postgresql.org, asking the
user to select the mirror, is rather unprofessional.

I agree; not only that, it has advertisements on it. What's the
justification for that, considering that none of the mirror sites
(AFAIK) have ads on them?

Actually, that is part of the redesign as well ...

could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is close enough
and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main web server) or
it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

Have tried both in the past with disastrous results ...

What method will be employed instead?

Anyone thought about using GeoIP and writing a script that'd dump the
database into something that could be postgresql usable? Just a
thought. -sc

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-----Original Message-----
From: CoL [mailto:col@mportal.hu]
Sent: 24 September 2002 13:23
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Web site

Hi,

So, why not just redirect people to one of the mirrors listed? This
could be done based on IP (yes it is inaccurate but it is

close enough

and has the same net effect: pushing people off the main

web server)

or it could be done by simply redirecting to a random mirror.

I think it would be stupid, I am, who wants to decide where
to go. If I
feel that .co.uk is better than others I'll chose that, and
bookmark if
I want.
(random??? brbrbrbrbr) :)

I think it's safe to say we will *not* be doing this...

Regards, Dave.