Time to move on...

Started by Thomas Lockhartabout 23 years ago15 messages
#1Thomas Lockhart
lockhart@fourpalms.org

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.

- Thomas

#2Christopher Kings-Lynne
chriskl@familyhealth.com.au
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Time to move on...

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Thanks for all your work, Thomas. I hope to one day achieve similarly -
time be willing!

To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
member of the steering committee?

Chris

#3Justin Clift
justin@postgresql.org
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Time to move on...

Thomas Lockhart wrote:

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee.

Wow. That was totally unexpected.

A sad day. :-/

It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Good luck Thomas.

Truly hope you're going to have heaps of fun, enjoy yourself, and find
the new projects rewarding too.

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.

- Thomas

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#4Mark Pritchard
mark.pritchard@modus.com.au
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Time to move on...

Hey Thomas,

Although we have never corresponded, I just wanted to say thank you to
yourself and all the other hackers who have devoted their time voluntarily to
PostgreSQL. It really is appreciated.

Cheers

Mark Pritchard

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On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.

- Thomas

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#5Dave Page
dpage@vale-housing.co.uk
In reply to: Mark Pritchard (#4)
Re: Time to move on...

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Lockhart [mailto:lockhart@fourpalms.org]
Sent: 15 November 2002 06:38
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: [HACKERS] Time to move on...

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six
years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do next Thomas. Your effort and help
over the last few years has certainly been appreciated by me, and I'm
sure by many others as well.

Regards, Dave.

#6Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Christopher Kings-Lynne (#2)
Re: Time to move on...

"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:

To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
member of the steering committee?

Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

regards, tom lane

#7Bruce Momjian
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us
In reply to: Tom Lane (#6)
Re: Time to move on...

Tom Lane wrote:

"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:

To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a new
member of the steering committee?

Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

The logic usually has been to add people to core who are so involved in
the release process that we couldn't imagine scheduling a release
without them.

I am not saying all current core members are that involved, but at the
time they were added to core, they were.

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#8Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@wgcr.org
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Time to move on...

On Friday 15 November 2002 01:38, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

I'll echo the sad day response of earlier. You have done quite a bit for the
project, and you will be missed.

Thanks to Marc, Bruce, and Vadim for welcoming me many years ago. It has
been great working with the group and I'm looking forward to seeing
PostgreSQL achieve greater and greater success in the coming years.

Thomas, good luck.
--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

#9Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@wgcr.org
In reply to: Tom Lane (#6)
Re: Time to move on...

On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote:

"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:

To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a
new member of the steering committee?

Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a
new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the
core members.

If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is. Having five core versus
six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists
of people who are already doing development now. Having an odd number of
core has its advantages.
--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

#10Vince Vielhaber
vev@michvhf.com
In reply to: Thomas Lockhart (#1)
Re: Time to move on...

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

Just a quick note to mention that I've resigned from the PostgreSQL
steering committee. It has been a lot of fun and very rewarding to
participate in PostgreSQL development over the last six years, but it is
time to take a break and to move on to other projects.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Good luck in all of your future endeavors.

Vince.
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#11Bruce Momjian
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us
In reply to: Lamar Owen (#9)
Re: Time to move on...

Lamar Owen wrote:

On Friday 15 November 2002 10:23, Tom Lane wrote:

"Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au> writes:

To the rest of the hackers, is it normal practice to perhaps vote in a
new member of the steering committee?

Uh ... it's never happened before ... so there is no "normal practice".

IMHO, replacement of a core member should be treated the same as bringing in a
new core member, which, IIRC, is by invitation and vote of the balance of the
core members.

If a replacement is immediately necessary, that is. Having five core versus
six core isn't a great handicap, as the potential replacement pool consists
of people who are already doing development now. Having an odd number of
core has its advantages.

I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
and deal with private issues like discipline. I think we deal with such
issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.

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#12Christopher Kings-Lynne
chriskl@familyhealth.com.au
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#11)
Re: Time to move on...

I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
and deal with private issues like discipline. I think we deal with such
issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.

OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...

Chris

#13Lamar Owen
lamar.owen@wgcr.org
In reply to: Christopher Kings-Lynne (#12)
Re: Time to move on...

On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

I will reiterate for the new folks that the core group doesn't do much
more than decide if the final release will be on a Friday or a Monday,
and deal with private issues like discipline. I think we deal with such
issues perhaps 2-4 times a year.

OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...

committers != core
--
Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
1 Peter 4:11

#14Neil Conway
neilc@samurai.com
In reply to: Lamar Owen (#13)
Re: Time to move on...

Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> writes:

On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...

committers != core

Is there any reason for this distinction?

Cheers,

Neil

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#15Bruce Momjian
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us
In reply to: Neil Conway (#14)
Re: Time to move on...

Neil Conway wrote:

Lamar Owen <lamar.owen@wgcr.org> writes:

On Saturday 16 November 2002 01:07, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

OK sorry - I was under the impression that core == commit bit...

committers != core

Is there any reason for this distinction?

I assume you are asking why there is core? It is really just for
getting a quick vote among folks for final release date, and for
discussing things with individuals and companies who require a private
conversation among PostgreSQL representatives.

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