== PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

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#1David Fetter
david@fetter.org

== PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries,
is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular
GPL.

Tom Lane has accepted a job at MySQL AB. He announced his departure
rather abruptly on the Hackers list yesterday:

So long, suckers!

With the change in leadership, core team members will implement
changes to the project. One which has picked up a lot of enthusiasm
is migrating the PostgreSQL code base away from C. Bruce Momjian
explains, "C has served us pretty well for 20 years. But we think
it's time to move to a more modern, and let's face it, more popular
programming language. With the JVM testing, and the performance
degradation, and retraining, we probably won't do any development for
2 years, but we figure it's worth a try."

PWN notes that the migration to Java will affect only the query
analyzer, executor, and storage engine. The client tools will be
re-written in COBOL.

A new language translation set of .po files for into 1337. w3lc0m3 t0
t|-|3 n3\/\/ /\/\3/\/\|3rz 0f teh c0mm|_|n1t'/!!1!!

== PostgreSQL Product News ==

PL/APL procedural language project launched
http://www.pgfoundry.org/projects/plapl

Bricolage 1.8.7.2.9.11.0.6.201.7a released.
http://www.bricolage.cc/news/announce/changes/bricolage-1.8.7.2.9.11.4.6.201.7a/

== PostgreSQL in the News ==

General Bits: http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/

#2Peter Childs
blue.dragon@blueyonder.co.uk
In reply to: David Fetter (#1)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

David Fetter wrote:

== PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries,
is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular
GPL.

Fine I can't see the difference, but have you not got to clear this
with every developer past and present to get it through.

Tom Lane has accepted a job at MySQL AB. He announced his departure
rather abruptly on the Hackers list yesterday:

So long, suckers!

I wonder why?

With the change in leadership, core team members will implement
changes to the project. One which has picked up a lot of enthusiasm
is migrating the PostgreSQL code base away from C. Bruce Momjian
explains, "C has served us pretty well for 20 years. But we think
it's time to move to a more modern, and let's face it, more popular
programming language. With the JVM testing, and the performance
degradation, and retraining, we probably won't do any development for
2 years, but we figure it's worth a try."

Ok the reason, If you think you can write a database that runs
faster than a snail in Java, you need to re-think. Tom obvouly knows
this and when to jump ship. Perl or Python would be faster!!! (And I
know I've worked in them and know the only thing slower than Java is
good old paper and pencil.)

PWN notes that the migration to Java will affect only the query
analyzer, executor, and storage engine. The client tools will be
re-written in COBOL.

Could that sentance please be reversed I could understand the client
tools being written in Java (just about) Cobol can more than cope with a
database, its older than C,

A new language translation set of .po files for into 1337. w3lc0m3 t0
t|-|3 n3\/\/ /\/\3/\/\|3rz 0f teh c0mm|_|n1t'/!!1!!

Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad?
I see a postpostgres on the horizon.

Peter Childs

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== PostgreSQL Product News ==

PL/APL procedural language project launched
http://www.pgfoundry.org/projects/plapl

Bricolage 1.8.7.2.9.11.0.6.201.7a released.
http://www.bricolage.cc/news/announce/changes/bricolage-1.8.7.2.9.11.4.6.201.7a/

== PostgreSQL in the News ==

General Bits: http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/

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#3Nic Ferrier
nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk
In reply to: David Fetter (#1)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

Peter Childs <blue.dragon@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:

Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad?
I see a postpostgres on the horizon.

What time zone are you in?

Think about the date.

#4Martín Marqués
martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar
In reply to: Peter Childs (#2)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

El Vie 01 Abr 2005 17:00, Peter Childs escribió:

David Fetter wrote:

== PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries,
is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular
GPL.

Fine I can't see the difference, but have you not got to clear this
with every developer past and present to get it through.

Tom Lane has accepted a job at MySQL AB. He announced his departure
rather abruptly on the Hackers list yesterday:

So long, suckers!

I wonder why?

[snip]

Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad?
I see a postpostgres on the horizon.

I think thats because..............

April's fools!!! :-D

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#5Jim Nasby
Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com
In reply to: Peter Childs (#2)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:15PM +0100, Peter Childs wrote:

David Fetter wrote:

== PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries,
is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular
GPL.

Fine I can't see the difference, but have you not got to clear this
with every developer past and present to get it through.

Nope. You can do anything you want with BSD licensed software, so long
as you maintain the copyright info. GPL restricts what you can do.
--
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#6Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Jim Nasby (#5)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

Jim C. Nasby wrote:

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 09:00:15PM +0100, Peter Childs wrote:

David Fetter wrote:

== PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

As of today, the license of PostgreSQL, including all its libraries,
is changing from the unfashionable BSD license to the more popular
GPL.

Fine I can't see the difference, but have you not got to clear this
with every developer past and present to get it through.

Nope. You can do anything you want with BSD licensed software, so long
as you maintain the copyright info. GPL restricts what you can do.

Yea, I guess so. If companies can make a closed-source version of
PostgreSQL, someone could do a GPL version.

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#7Vick Khera
vivek@khera.org
In reply to: Peter Childs (#2)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

On Apr 1, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Peter Childs wrote:

Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad?
I see a postpostgres on the horizon.

no, dave broke tradition and posted an entirely factual newsletter on
april 1. I think he should lose his job for that. :-)

#8elein
elein@varlena.com
In reply to: Vick Khera (#7)
Re: [ANNOUNCE] == PostgreSQL Weekly News - April 01 2005 ==

On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:20:01PM -0500, Vivek Khera wrote:

On Apr 1, 2005, at 3:00 PM, Peter Childs wrote:

Either this message is a joke, Or you have all gone mad?
I see a postpostgres on the horizon.

no, dave broke tradition and posted an entirely factual newsletter on
april 1. I think he should lose his job for that. :-)

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I myself am excited and anxious to see the 1337 .po. 1 4/\/\ 57|_|d`/ing
l337 45 4 53c0/\|d 14/\|g|_|4g3.

But I am disappointed that the reference to general bits in the newsletter
was completely straight.

--elein