v7.3.1 tar ready ... please check it ...
Going to announce later this evening to give the mirrors a chance to catch
up ... let me know if there are any problems ..
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone gone
over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure things like
the websites getting updated or perhaps getting rpm builds coordinated
has been done?
Robert Treat
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On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:18, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
Going to announce later this evening to give the mirrors a chance to catch
up ... let me know if there are any problems ..
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone gone
over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure things like
the websites getting updated or perhaps getting rpm builds coordinated
has been done?
No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has changed that
needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...
Show quoted text
Robert Treat
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:18, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
Going to announce later this evening to give the mirrors a chance to catch
up ... let me know if there are any problems ..
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
Sent: 18 December 2002 14:51
To: Robert Treat
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 tar ready ... please check it ...On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone
gone over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure
things like the websites getting updated or perhaps gettingrpm builds
coordinated has been done?
No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has
changed that needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...
Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
Regards, Dave
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
Sent: 18 December 2002 14:51
To: Robert Treat
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 tar ready ... please check it ...On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone
gone over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure
things like the websites getting updated or perhaps gettingrpm builds
coordinated has been done?
No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has
changed that needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:51, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone gone
over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure things like
the websites getting updated or perhaps getting rpm builds coordinated
has been done?No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has changed that
needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...
Surly the websites will still need to be updated, rpm's need to be
built, things like that...
Robert Treat
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
Sent: 18 December 2002 14:51
To: Robert Treat
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 tar ready ... please check it ...On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone
gone over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure
things like the websites getting updated or perhaps gettingrpm builds
coordinated has been done?
No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has
changed that needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(
I think changing major version of libpq is an important thing to be
mentioned.
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(
I don't know, if you're a postgresql user and you don't read these lists,
you might find out about a bug in a release note and upgrade when you
otherwise might not.
www.linuxtoday.com has weekly updates from many gnu / OSS projects which
are far less interesting than our 7.3.1 release is. I could see posting a
minor upgrade release notice there and on other OSS news web site
(freshmeat, slashdot, etc...)
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, scott.marlowe wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(I don't know, if you're a postgresql user and you don't read these lists,
you might find out about a bug in a release note and upgrade when you
otherwise might not.www.linuxtoday.com has weekly updates from many gnu / OSS projects which
are far less interesting than our 7.3.1 release is. I could see posting a
minor upgrade release notice there and on other OSS news web site
(freshmeat, slashdot, etc...)
Okay, that I agree on ... note that my press list contains alot more then
that, most of which wouldn't be appropriate for a minor release ... maybe
we need to setup a seperate 'minor release' list?
Please note, I have no problems sending it out to a bunch of email
addresses, I'm just questioning whether it makes sense to do so ...
freshmeat not withstanding, since I don't see it as much of an annoucne
site as a centralized list of OSS software ...
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 09:51, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone gone
over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure things like
the websites getting updated or perhaps getting rpm builds coordinated
has been done?No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has changed that
needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...Surly the websites will still need to be updated, rpm's need to be
built, things like that...
Of course, but that has nothing to do with announcing to a wider press
audience ... :)
scott.marlowe wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(I don't know, if you're a postgresql user and you don't read these lists,
you might find out about a bug in a release note and upgrade when you
otherwise might not.www.linuxtoday.com has weekly updates from many gnu / OSS projects which
are far less interesting than our 7.3.1 release is. I could see posting a
minor upgrade release notice there and on other OSS news web site
(freshmeat, slashdot, etc...)
At the very least the PostgreSQL website team should be loudly notified so we can confirm the needed links have been
updated prior to the release announcement.
It probably wouldn't hurt to go through a proper release process, but determine which steps are optional or not needed
for smaller releases.
:-)
Regards and best wishes,
Justin clift
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"My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi
On 18 Dec 2002 at 8:54, scott.marlowe wrote:
www.linuxtoday.com has weekly updates from many gnu / OSS projects which
are far less interesting than our 7.3.1 release is. I could see posting a
minor upgrade release notice there and on other OSS news web site
(freshmeat, slashdot, etc...)
I read linuxtoday and /. daily. Linuxtoday is OK but /. would be an almost
waste of another 800 comments of postgresql v/s mysql.
Just a thought..
Bye
Shridhar
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Manly's Maxim: Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion
with confidence.
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 08:53, Dave Page wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
Sent: 18 December 2002 14:51
To: Robert Treat
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 tar ready ... please check it ...On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote:
Is this going to be announced to a wider press audience? Has anyone
gone over the "list of things to do when we release" to make sure
things like the websites getting updated or perhaps gettingrpm builds
coordinated has been done?
No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has
changed that needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
Regards, Dave
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I agree it should be considered. It helps build mind share, which I
think we can all agree is somewhat lacking for PostgreSQL compared to
MySQL. It helps build the impression that PostgreSQL doesn't just sit
idle between major releases. It allows a potential user base to see
"PostgreSQL" more frequently and build interest. It let's people know
that PostgreSQL is constantly being improved.
Mind share is a powerful thing and as any advertiser will tell you,
press releases is one of the best ways to get the word out.
Greg
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Copeland Computer Consulting
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> writes:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(
I think this is exactly the difference between "press release" and
"technical announcement" that Marc was getting beat up on just a couple
weeks ago. A bug-fix-only update is not worthy of a press release.
It is worthy of a technical announcement --- which is exactly what Marc
plans to push out to pgsql-announce as soon as the FTP mirrors are up
to date.
regards, tom lane
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lane [mailto:tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us]
Sent: 18 December 2002 16:34
To: Marc G. Fournier
Cc: Dave Page; Robert Treat; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 tar ready ... please check it ..."Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> writes:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed
some bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any featuresadded to them,
so isn't really news worthy ... :(
I think this is exactly the difference between "press
release" and "technical announcement" that Marc was getting
beat up on just a couple weeks ago. A bug-fix-only update is
not worthy of a press release. It is worthy of a technical
announcement --- which is exactly what Marc plans to push out
to pgsql-announce as soon as the FTP mirrors are up to date.
I think Marc got beat up over the fact that we (pgsql-*) got the press
release, not the gory details, rather than whether or not we sent a
press release to other sites. I would suggest:
- pgsql-announce gets the tech version for every release.
- Marc's full contacts list get the major version notices in press
format with a link to the tech version.
- Marc's smaller techy contacts list (freshmeat, /. etc.) get a small
press release with a link to the tech version for minor releases as
well.
Regards, Dave
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"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> writes:
Going to announce later this evening to give the mirrors a chance to catch
up ... let me know if there are any problems ..
Tarball looks good from here.
regards, tom lane
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Dave Page wrote:
- pgsql-announce gets the tech version for every release.
- Marc's full contacts list get the major version notices in press
format with a link to the tech version.
- Marc's smaller techy contacts list (freshmeat, /. etc.) get a small
press release with a link to the tech version for minor releases as
well.
Which sounds cool to me ... now, freshmeat I have to go to and modify
locally ... does anyone have a list of contact email(s) that are
apropriate for 'the techy contacts list'?
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Tom Lane wrote:
"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> writes:
Going to announce later this evening to give the mirrors a chance to catch
up ... let me know if there are any problems ..Tarball looks good from here.
Great, put out a short techy announcement this evening when I geth home
...
Oleg Bartunov wrote:
No, we don't do that with minor releases ... nothing has
changed that needs to be announced, other then a few bugs fixed ...Maybe we should? The more publicity the better etc...
The problem is that there is nothing to announce ... "Hi, we fixed some
bugs"? :) minor releases don't have any features added to them, so isn't
really news worthy ... :(I think changing major version of libpq is an important thing to be
mentioned.
It is mentioned in the release notes text:
Migration to version 7.3.1
A dump/restore is *not* required for those running 7.3. However, it
should be noted that the main PostgreSQL interface library, libpq, has
a new major version number for this release, which may require
recompilation of client code in certain cases.
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Bruce Momjian writes:
A dump/restore is *not* required for those running 7.3. However, it
should be noted that the main PostgreSQL interface library, libpq, has
a new major version number for this release, which may require
recompilation of client code in certain cases.s/certain/all/
I was unclear on that. If they install right over their existing
pgsql/lib directory, the old libpq will still be there, so a recompile
will not be required.
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