FAQ 1.1

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

I've read the politically correct answer, "Post-Gres-Q-L" but it's
such a mouthful, such a day's work to pronounce, that there must be a
real street pronunciation, or a number of them, that are not being
confessed to.

They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met
people who do that. The need for a simple pronunciation with many
fewer than 4 syllables seems more urgent for PostgreSQL.

"Pig Swill" is an easy guess. It is quite catchy and simple. But I
wonder if there are other, perhaps more flattering pronunciations.

Do you have a snappy pronunciation and what is it? I'd be interested
in what the babble is at your PostgreSQL site.

I pronounce it as above, or just refer to it as 'p-g-s-q-l' ... others
just refer to it as postgres ... and I've heard of 'pig squeal', but had
heard 'pig swill' ...

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Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

I've read the politically correct answer, "Post-Gres-Q-L" but it's
such a mouthful, such a day's work to pronounce, that there must be a
real street pronunciation, or a number of them, that are not being
confessed to.

I think most of us just say "Postgres" ;-)

"Pig Swill" is an easy guess. It is quite catchy and simple. But I
wonder if there are other, perhaps more flattering pronunciations.

I've always read the names of these mailing lists as "pig-squeal" ...
seems very appropriate for discussion forums, if not for the product ...

regards, tom lane

Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

"Postgres"

-Doug

On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

Do you have a snappy pronunciation and what is it? I'd be interested
in what the babble is at your PostgreSQL site.

Externally, to customers, "post-gres-kwul".

Internally, "the database".

Cheers,
Steve

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Klint Gore wrote:

They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met
people who do that.

...
Who's "they"? The only datbase vendor I've heard call their own product
"sequel" is MS.

E.g. Sybex "SQL Instant Reference" (1993), page 2.

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:10:15 +0930 (CST), Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> wrote:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

we just use postgres.

They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met
people who do that.

I hate that. It's an acronym not a word - you say the letters.

Who's "they"? The only datbase vendor I've heard call their own product
"sequel" is MS.

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Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

http://www.serioustechnology.com/postgres.ogg

Or for those of you who have an inferior operating system:

http://www.serioustechnology.com/postgres.wav

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:14:28 +1000 Klint Gore <kg@kgb.une.edu.au> wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:10:15 +0930 (CST), Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> wrote:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

we just use postgres.

Post Gress is what I've heard also.

They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met
people who do that.

I hate that. It's an acronym not a word - you say the letters.

Uh, an acronym _is_ a word. That's the definition. (NASA, WAC,
RADAR, etc.) If it's pronounced as a list of letters, then it's not really
an acronym, even though it is in common usage (cf. TLA, ETLA, etc.)

Though after reading the Wiki on TLA, I see that we languaage
purists have tried to reclaim acronym by retrofitting the
definition of TLA to be three letter _abbreviation_.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tla

Sorry for the digression. {-;

-karl

ANSI has declared that the official pronunciation for SQL is /ɛs kjuː ɛl/

Klint Gore wrote:

Who's "they"? The only datbase vendor I've heard call their own product
"sequel" is MS.

SEQUEL (pronounced sequel) was a predecessor to SQL in IBM's 1970's
System R database; but isn't really the same thing as SQL.

[both statements from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sql ]

Douglas McNaught wrote:

Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

"Postgres"

The first sentence of the FAQ is:

<P>PostgreSQL is pronounced <I>Post-Gres-Q-L</I>, and is also sometimes
referred to as just <I>Postgres</I>.

Is that unclear?

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Bruce Momjian schrieb:

Douglas McNaught wrote:

Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

"Postgres"

The first sentence of the FAQ is:

<P>PostgreSQL is pronounced <I>Post-Gres-Q-L</I>, and is also sometimes
referred to as just <I>Postgres</I>.

Is that unclear?

Maybe it would be better to write it like that in logos and stuff:
PostGresQL or something like that ;)

++Tino

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Bruce Momjian schrieb:

Douglas McNaught wrote:

Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:

How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?

"Postgres"

The first sentence of the FAQ is:

<P>PostgreSQL is pronounced <I>Post-Gres-Q-L</I>, and

is also sometimes

referred to as just <I>Postgres</I>.

Is that unclear?

Maybe it would be better to write it like that in logos and stuff:
PostGresQL or something like that ;)

Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get
'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres'

:-)

/D

On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Dave Page wrote:

Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get
'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres'

Man I hate when people do that.

I think we should just rename the database to 'Fred'. :)
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jnasby@pervasive.com (Jim Nasby) writes:

On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Dave Page wrote:

Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get
'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres'

Man I hate when people do that.

I think we should just rename the database to 'Fred'. :)

Yeah, someone at the office was asking me on the elevator about
whether some Post-something was somehow up and coming.

In retrospect, I think he was trying to pronounce Postgre, and arrived
at something I had never heard before...
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On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Chris Browne wrote:

jnasby@pervasive.com (Jim Nasby) writes:

On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Dave Page wrote:

Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get
'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres'

Man I hate when people do that.

I think we should just rename the database to 'Fred'. :)

Yeah, someone at the office was asking me on the elevator about
whether some Post-something was somehow up and coming.

In retrospect, I think he was trying to pronounce Postgre, and arrived
at something I had never heard before...

And it doesn't help when "post-something" could also mean a very
popular MTA...
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# jnasby@pervasive.com / 2006-04-06 12:03:18 -0400:

On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Chris Browne wrote:

Yeah, someone at the office was asking me on the elevator about
whether some Post-something was somehow up and coming.

In retrospect, I think he was trying to pronounce Postgre, and arrived
at something I had never heard before...

And it doesn't help when "post-something" could also mean a very
popular MTA...

Looks like a missed opportunity for a April 1st announcement
of disambiguating the two by renaming "postgres" to "pregross". :)

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On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:26:32AM +0000, User Roman wrote:

Looks like a missed opportunity for a April 1st announcement
of disambiguating the two by renaming "postgres" to "pregross". :)

Not exactly that change, but....

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-04/msg00023.php

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