DISTINCT to get distinct *substrings*?

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#1Christoph Pingel
ch.pingel@web.de

Hello to the list,

here's an SQL question, I hope it's not off topic. From a list of
URLs I want to get only the distinct values of the *web sites* these
URLs belong to, that is everything before and including the 3rd
slash, and I think this should be possible within the DB. I would
like to say something like

SELECT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/') from pg_atp where
attribute like 'http://%'

(which works) but get only the distinct values. SELECT DISTINCT ON
substring.. doesn't work. Probably I haven't understood the semantics
of the DISTINCT keyword. Can anybody help?

thanks in advance
Christoph

#2Nikolay Samokhvalov
samokhvalov@gmail.com
In reply to: Christoph Pingel (#1)
Re: DISTINCT to get distinct *substrings*?

SELECT DISTINCT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/') from pg_atp
where attribute like 'http://%';

w/o DISTINCT there should be duplicates (if any)

don't use "DISTINCT ON" at all, it's evil :-) (why?
http://chernowiki.ru/index.php?node=38#A13)

On 8/8/06, Christoph Pingel <ch.pingel@web.de> wrote:

Hello to the list,

here's an SQL question, I hope it's not off topic. From a list of URLs I
want to get only the distinct values of the *web sites* these URLs belong
to, that is everything before and including the 3rd slash, and I think this
should be possible within the DB. I would like to say something like

SELECT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from pg_atp where
attribute like 'http://%&#39;

(which works) but get only the distinct values. SELECT DISTINCT ON
substring.. doesn't work. Probably I haven't understood the semantics of the
DISTINCT keyword. Can anybody help?

thanks in advance
Christoph

--
Best regards,
Nikolay

#3Ben
bench@silentmedia.com
In reply to: Nikolay Samokhvalov (#2)
Re: DISTINCT to get distinct *substrings*?

DISTINCT ON is extremely useful when you know what you're doing. It's
postgres' version of oracle's first_value analytical function, and when
you need it, nothing else really suffices.

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolay Samokhvalov wrote:

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SELECT DISTINCT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from pg_atp
where attribute like 'http://%&#39;;

w/o DISTINCT there should be duplicates (if any)

don't use "DISTINCT ON" at all, it's evil :-) (why?
http://chernowiki.ru/index.php?node=38#A13)

On 8/8/06, Christoph Pingel <ch.pingel@web.de> wrote:

Hello to the list,

here's an SQL question, I hope it's not off topic. From a list of URLs I
want to get only the distinct values of the *web sites* these URLs belong
to, that is everything before and including the 3rd slash, and I think this
should be possible within the DB. I would like to say something like

SELECT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from pg_atp where
attribute like 'http://%&#39;

(which works) but get only the distinct values. SELECT DISTINCT ON
substring.. doesn't work. Probably I haven't understood the semantics of
the
DISTINCT keyword. Can anybody help?

thanks in advance
Christoph

--
Best regards,
Nikolay

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#4Christoph Pingel
ch.pingel@web.de
In reply to: Nikolay Samokhvalov (#2)
Re: DISTINCT to get distinct *substrings*?

Am 08.08.2006 um 19:49 schrieb Nikolay Samokhvalov:

SELECT DISTINCT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from pg_atp
where attribute like 'http://%&#39;;

w/o DISTINCT there should be duplicates (if any)

don't use "DISTINCT ON" at all, it's evil :-) (why?
http://chernowiki.ru/index.php?node=38#A13)

Thanks for the good advice! From reading this, it seems to be a
*really* bad thing. And I didn't get it from the official
documentation. :-)

ok, SELECT DISTINCT works, and it seems that the results are ordered
(by the substring) - is this the default behaviour or just by chance
(and probably version dependent)?

best regards,
Christoph

#5Christoph Pingel
ch.pingel@web.de
In reply to: Ben (#3)
Re: DISTINCT to get distinct *substrings*?

Thanks for the input, I think I get this now. In my case, the query

SELECT DISTINCT ON (substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;))
attribute from pg_atp where attribute like 'http://%&#39;

doesn't get me just the root of the URL, but the whole URL - but only
for the first row for each individual root. While

SELECT DISTINCT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from
pg_atp where attribute like 'http://%&#39;

does what I first intended - get a list of all (distinct) root URLs.
Wieder was gelernt. (Learnt something again. :-)

best regards,
Christoph

Am 08.08.2006 um 20:36 schrieb Ben:

Show quoted text

DISTINCT ON is extremely useful when you know what you're doing.
It's postgres' version of oracle's first_value analytical function,
and when you need it, nothing else really suffices.

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Nikolay Samokhvalov wrote:

SELECT DISTINCT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from
pg_atp
where attribute like 'http://%&#39;;

w/o DISTINCT there should be duplicates (if any)

don't use "DISTINCT ON" at all, it's evil :-) (why?
http://chernowiki.ru/index.php?node=38#A13)

On 8/8/06, Christoph Pingel <ch.pingel@web.de> wrote:

Hello to the list,
here's an SQL question, I hope it's not off topic. From a list of
URLs I
want to get only the distinct values of the *web sites* these
URLs belong
to, that is everything before and including the 3rd slash, and I
think this
should be possible within the DB. I would like to say something like
SELECT substring(attribute from '^http://[^/]*/&#39;) from pg_atp where
attribute like 'http://%&#39;
(which works) but get only the distinct values. SELECT DISTINCT ON
substring.. doesn't work. Probably I haven't understood the
semantics of the
DISTINCT keyword. Can anybody help?
thanks in advance
Christoph

--
Best regards,
Nikolay

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#6Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Christoph Pingel (#4)
Re: DISTINCT to get distinct *substrings*?

Christoph Pingel <ch.pingel@web.de> writes:

Am 08.08.2006 um 19:49 schrieb Nikolay Samokhvalov:

don't use "DISTINCT ON" at all, it's evil :-) (why?
http://chernowiki.ru/index.php?node=38#A13

Thanks for the good advice! From reading this, it seems to be a
*really* bad thing. And I didn't get it from the official
documentation. :-)

That page is complaining about DISTINCT ON as it was defined in 1999.
It's a lot harder to shoot yourself in the foot now:

regression=# select distinct on (ten) hundred from tenk1 order by unique2;
ERROR: SELECT DISTINCT ON expressions must match initial ORDER BY expressions

I don't deny that it's nonstandard and pretty ugly, but sometimes it's
just really hard to solve a problem any other way.

regards, tom lane