CertFirst Legit?
I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases and
know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB
experience). I've been looking for training and came across an
administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on
the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the
classes I got the impression that they weren't on the up and up. When I
asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk
me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked
about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full but I
could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me
where their classes in Vegas are held.
Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they claim
to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site I've
never heard of.
If you're concerned about them, you might want to just use someone
else... I can think of at least 2 other companies that offer training
classes.
On Nov 27, 2006, at 2:40 PM, rnshah@imap.cc wrote:
I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases
and
know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB
experience). I've been looking for training and came across an
administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on
the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the
classes I got the impression that they weren't on the up and up.
When I
asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk
me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked
about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full
but I
could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me
where their classes in Vegas are held.Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they
claim
to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site
I've
never heard of.---------------------------(end of
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Jim Nasby wrote:
If you're concerned about them, you might want to just use someone
else... I can think of at least 2 other companies that offer training
classes.On Nov 27, 2006, at 2:40 PM, rnshah@imap.cc wrote:
I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases and
know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB
experience). I've been looking for training and came across an
administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on
the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the
classes I got the impression that they weren't on the up and up. When I
asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk
me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked
about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full but I
could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me
where their classes in Vegas are held.Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they claim
to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site I've
never heard of.
Hello Sir,
We do offer PostgreSQL training courses - from basic to advanced
courses, including Performance & Tuning courses. Our courses are
typically held at our Morrisville, NC location - but from time to time
we do offer them in the San Jose, CA area.
If you're looking to stay on the west coast because of cost, please note
that our courses often include an option that includes hotel and
airfare. They are priced to be competitive with any local training
providers that you may have (and are typically less than what you would
pay for a class around the corner from you!)
For example, our for example, our PostgreSQL Administration course - 5
days is priced at $2,195 and includes round-trip airfare as well as 5
nights hotel accommodation and free shuttle services here in
Morrisville, NC. I'd be more than happy to provide you with some
references that you can contact if you have questions about the quality
of content of the courses that we offer.
Our Morrisville, NC PostgreSQL courses are also guaranteed to run -
regardless of the number of students that enroll. So you can base your
project schedules/plans on the fact that you will get the training when
you schedule it.
Thank You
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Chander Ganesan
The Open Technology Group
One Copley Parkway, Suite 210
Morrisville, NC 27560
Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999
http://www.otg-nc.com
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<div>I'm looking at taking this course. The Illinois location is about 30 min from my home.</div>
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<div>No one else has taken this course?<BR></div>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid">-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [GENERAL] CertFirst Legit?<BR>From: Jim Nasby <decibel@decibel.org><BR>Date: Thu, November 30, 2006 2:34 pm<BR>To: rnshah@imap.cc<BR>Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org<BR><BR>If you're concerned about them, you might want to just use someone <BR>else... I can think of at least 2 other companies that offer training <BR>classes.<BR><BR>On Nov 27, 2006, at 2:40 PM, rnshah@imap.cc wrote:<BR><BR>> I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases <BR>> and<BR>> know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB<BR>> experience). I've been looking for training and came across an<BR>> administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on<BR>> the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the<BR>> classes I got the impression that the
y weren't on the up and up. <BR>> When I<BR>> asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk<BR>> me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked<BR>> about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full <BR>> but I<BR>> could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me<BR>> where their classes in Vegas are held.<BR>><BR>> Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they <BR>> claim<BR>> to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site <BR>> I've<BR>> never heard of.<BR>><BR>> ---------------------------(end of <BR>> broadcast)---------------------------<BR>> TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?<BR>><BR>> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq<BR>&gt;<BR><BR>--<BR>Jim Nasby
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I had a similar experience with their classes here in Massachusetts.
In the end my boss overrode me and decided to go with MySQL for
our project, since we can find reliable training from MySQL AB.
rnshah@imap.cc wrote:
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I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases and
know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB
experience). I've been looking for training and came across an
administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on
the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the
classes I got the impression that they weren't on the up and up. When I
asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk
me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked
about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full but I
could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me
where their classes in Vegas are held.Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they claim
to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site I've
never heard of.---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
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On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 08:34 -0800, yt_groups@comcast.net wrote:
I had a similar experience with their classes here in Massachusetts.
In the end my boss overrode me and decided to go with MySQL for
our project, since we can find reliable training from MySQL AB.
There are three well known providers for PostgreSQL.
http://www.otg-nc.com/
http://www.bignerdranch.com/
http://www.commandprompt.com/
They all do different types of traning. Command Prompt specializes in
corporate training, so unless you are training > 8 people then they
aren't for you.
OTG is more of the traditional corporate class type training where you
will have anywhere 4+ individuals within the class.
Bignerdranch does week long intense training.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
rnshah@imap.cc wrote:
I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases and
know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB
experience). I've been looking for training and came across an
administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on
the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the
classes I got the impression that they weren't on the up and up. When I
asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk
me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked
about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full but I
could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me
where their classes in Vegas are held.Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they claim
to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site I've
never heard of.---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 08:34 -0800, yt_groups@comcast.net wrote:
I had a similar experience with their classes here in Massachusetts.
In the end my boss overrode me and decided to go with MySQL for
our project, since we can find reliable training from MySQL AB.There are three well known providers for PostgreSQL.
http://www.otg-nc.com/
http://www.bignerdranch.com/
http://www.commandprompt.com/They all do different types of traning. Command Prompt specializes in
corporate training, so unless you are training > 8 people then they
aren't for you.OTG is more of the traditional corporate class type training where you
will have anywhere 4+ individuals within the class.
FYI...
We (OTG) are a bit more than that. OTG provides three different types
of training:
* Customized corporate (build-your-own) training using our extensive
library of PostgreSQL courseware (most corporate training is
"unscripted" - with little or no courseware; our classes include
well defined courses with pre-planned exercises - and "howto"
style step-by-step course documentation).
* Pre-built on-site corporate training - which includes our
courseware as well, this is typically the courses/courseware that
we normally deliver in our public enrollment courses.
* Public (open-enrollment) training. Our open-enrollment courses
optionally include 5 nights of hotel accommodation as well as
round trip airfare. The ones in Morrisville, NC are also
guaranteed to run, regardless of enrollment.
Our on-site corporate classes are generally cost-effective (i.e., it
becomes cheaper for us to come to you, rather than you coming to us) for
groups of 4 or more students.
Our courseware is always up to date (in fact, we send the latest version
to print the for each class), and is current to features included in the
latest version of PostgreSQL (8.2). We also own 100% of our content,
allowing us to customize courses without adding additional cost.
Our public classes will have 1 or more students in them. We've run (and
continue to run) occasional PostgreSQL classes with 1 or 2 students. We
maintain a class "A" facility with the latest in hardware and a single
PC per student - so everything is hands on, and students are able to
exercise pretty much every thing they learn in class.
--
Chander Ganesan
The Open Technology Group
One Copley Parkway, Suite 210
Morrisville, NC 27560
Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999
http://www.otg-nc.com
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Bignerdranch does week long intense training.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
rnshah@imap.cc wrote:
I've been tasked with administering one of our PostgreSQL databases and
know little or nothing about the product (though I do have DB
experience). I've been looking for training and came across an
administration class at 'http://www.postgresql.org/about/event.425' on
the main web site. When I called the certfirst people offering the
classes I got the impression that they weren't on the up and up. When I
asked if the class in Newport Beach was sure to run they tried to talk
me into taking a class in their Illinois location, and when I asked
about a class in January in Vegas they told me it was already full but I
could take the December class in Illinois -- but they wouldn't tell me
where their classes in Vegas are held.Can anyone provide me with a reference for these guys? Also, they claim
to offer a certification but it is done online using some web site I've
never heard of.---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
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