NEW POSTGRESQL LOGOS

Hi.

Due to some bug report for the postgresql python interface, I started
testing the current large objects support. Two points seems to be wrong,
but yet I only studied one.

LO may span over some blocks and whenever a block boundary is crossed (for
the first access for example, or whenever a full block has been read), the
lo_read() query gets a:
"NOTICE: buffer leak [xx] detected in BufferPoolCheckLeak()"
The leak is located in an index_getnext() call to seek the next
block (using a btree index). But as this part of code is less easy to
follow and I can't go further.
This call is locate in inv_fetchtup(), called by inv_read() from the
inv_api.c file.

Could someone give me some pointers on how I could track where the faulty
buffer is allocated?

Thanks.

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Steve Logue writes:

After reading the recent mailing list thread about PostgreSQL not
growing in popularity as fast as MySQL and the lack of a legible logo, I
got bored and took a stab at some. I'd like to make a new logo for
people to pass around and also get an HTML/Logo usage page in the
distribution. Feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,
-STEVEl

http://www.nettek-llc.com/postgresql/

These are not bad, although the difference in size between the "Postgre" and
the "SQL" make it a little hard to read as one word. The different background
for the two parts of the word adds to this. Still, they are attractive.

Hmmm, I have an idea, what about a Penguin?

-dg

David Gould dg@illustra.com 510.628.3783 or 510.305.9468
Informix Software 300 Lakeside Drive Oakland, CA 94612
- A child of five could understand this! Fetch me a child of five.

dg@illustra.com (David Gould) writes:

| > http://www.nettek-llc.com/postgresql/
|
| These are not bad, although the difference in size between the "Postgre" and
| the "SQL" make it a little hard to read as one word. The different background
| for the two parts of the word adds to this. Still, they are attractive.

I would tend to agree; unfortunately, the name is a bit too long and awkward to
be used as a visual logo.

| Hmmm, I have an idea, what about a Penguin?

Already taken by Apple's Quicktime product. However, a cross between the BSD
daemon 'toon and a penguin would be fairly funny; a red and white penguin with
horns and a long, barbed tail? :)

---Ken

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, David Gould wrote:

Steve Logue writes:

After reading the recent mailing list thread about PostgreSQL not
growing in popularity as fast as MySQL and the lack of a legible logo, I
got bored and took a stab at some. I'd like to make a new logo for
people to pass around and also get an HTML/Logo usage page in the
distribution. Feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,
-STEVEl

http://www.nettek-llc.com/postgresql/

These are not bad, although the difference in size between the "Postgre" and
the "SQL" make it a little hard to read as one word. The different background
for the two parts of the word adds to this. Still, they are attractive.

Hmmm, I have an idea, what about a Penguin?

Damn linux fanatics :)

We want "product identification"...the Penguin is what Linux is
identified with, and, as we *all* know, the last thing I would want to be
identified with :)

Someone came up with an alligator as our totem...but nobody seemed
able to come up with a *strong* image to use :( I kinda like an elephant
or turtle...a little slower, but highly dependable...

We need something to identify with that isn't already used (ie. I
won't suggest a little devil *grin*)...

Steve...I looked at the ones you made, and found then a little
dry...I personally think it is going to be difficult to do a 'Powered by'
icon with an animal on it, but is it possible to *jumps* out at you?
Maybe a little depth? Maybe emboss the work PostgreSQL, so that it stands
out from the page? I like the top-left one the most, against the white
background like that, but maybe have it stick out like a button?

I'm just throwing ideas out...take or leave any and/or all of them
:)

Marc G. Fournier
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Ken McGlothlen wrote:

Already taken by Apple's Quicktime product. However, a cross between the BSD
daemon 'toon and a penguin would be fairly funny; a red and white penguin with
horns and a long, barbed tail? :)

Actually, I've seen something along those lines before also, a spoof on
the Linux penguin, Tux.

Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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Marc G. Fournier writes:

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, David Gould wrote:

Hmmm, I have an idea, what about a Penguin?

Damn linux fanatics :)

We want "product identification"...the Penguin is what Linux is
identified with, and, as we *all* know, the last thing I would want to be
identified with :)

Off topic, but this is too good, so I am going to share anyway:

For background, the official Linux logo is a drawing of a rather plump
and distinctly non-threatening penguin known as 'Tux'.
-dg

Forwarded message:

Subject: Re: Q: Why a penguin?
From: C. Chan <cchan@surya.bsd.uchicago.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc

Clive Clomsbarrow <xxx@xxx.org> wrote:

Apparently Linus is person to blame for adopting
the stupid-looking thing. I guess he thought a
penguin would be cool (literally and figuratively).
I guess he deserves to get his way, even if it is
a demonstrable fact that marketing and engineering
are incompatible specialties.

A penguin is OK, though I'd prefer the N. hemisphere
puffin.

I think it needs more attitude though, the mascot
looks too tame sitting on its fat duff. To really
appeal to Americans, the penguin should have a hot
pink mohawk, mirrorshades, an ammo belt draped about
its shoulders, an Uzi tucked under one wing...

...and the severed head of Bill Gates under the other.

--

-dg

David Gould dg@illustra.com 510.628.3783 or 510.305.9468
Informix Software 300 Lakeside Drive Oakland, CA 94612
"Linux was made by foreign terrorists to steal money from true
AMERICAN companies like Microsoft who invented computing as we
know it, and are being punished for their success..."

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, David Gould wrote:

I think it needs more attitude though, the mascot
looks too tame sitting on its fat duff. To really
appeal to Americans, the penguin should have a hot
pink mohawk, mirrorshades, an ammo belt draped about
its shoulders, an Uzi tucked under one wing...

...and the severed head of Bill Gates under the other.

Sounds good.. print it!

Kevin

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David Gould wrote:

Steve Logue writes:

After reading the recent mailing list thread about PostgreSQL not
growing in popularity as fast as MySQL and the lack of a legible logo, I
got bored and took a stab at some. I'd like to make a new logo for
people to pass around and also get an HTML/Logo usage page in the
distribution. Feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,
-STEVEl

http://www.nettek-llc.com/postgresql/

These are not bad, although the difference in size between the "Postgre" and
the "SQL" make it a little hard to read as one word. The different background
for the two parts of the word adds to this. Still, they are attractive.

Yes. PostgreSQL is hard to read as one word even when printed ;)

I think it would help to move the "powered" word up (and make it
"powered by") and have the baselines for "Postgre" and "SQL" line up.

Hmmm, I have an idea, what about a Penguin?

I did some logos a few months ago based on a Crocodile image.
Unfortunately I have'nt had time to work on it lately.

They are still up for viewing at :

http://www.trust.ee/Info/PostgreSQL.figs/logo/page.html

I got even some positive feedback ;), especially for the
'PostgreSQL underneath' logo button on page2.

But to make a proper logo out of that material still requires some work.

Hannu

Hannu Krosing wrote:

I did some logos a few months ago based on a Crocodile image.
Unfortunately I have'nt had time to work on it lately.

They are still up for viewing at :

http://www.trust.ee/Info/PostgreSQL.figs/logo/page.html

I got even some positive feedback ;), especially for the
'PostgreSQL underneath' logo button on page2.

But to make a proper logo out of that material still requires some work.

I think the croco is great!

/* m */

The Hermit Hacker wrote:

We want "product identification"...the Penguin is what Linux is
identified with, and, as we *all* know, the last thing I would want to be
identified with :)

(First off - thanks to everyone for the feed back.)

I agree - actually I think animals should be out alltogether. IMHO Postgres needs
a professional, corporate image. Look at MySQL's stuff again. Very
clean/professional - something that "soothes" the business types into trying the
product for potentially important things. Many people just assume MySQL is a
superior product because it is the product of a company, and looks it (whom happen
to give sources too).

Someone came up with an alligator as our totem...but nobody seemed
able to come up with a *strong* image to use :( I kinda like an elephant
or turtle...a little slower, but highly dependable...

We need something to identify with that isn't already used (ie. I
won't suggest a little devil *grin*)...

The alligators look good and certainly were more effort. If we must do an animal,
I think the original logo had it right - something FAST - a chetah, a gazell,
can't go wrong with an eagle in this country :)

Steve...I looked at the ones you made, and found then a little
dry...I personally think it is going to be difficult to do a 'Powered by'
icon with an animal on it, but is it possible to *jumps* out at you?
Maybe a little depth? Maybe emboss the work PostgreSQL, so that it stands
out from the page? I like the top-left one the most, against the white
background like that, but maybe have it stick out like a button?

OK we have a concensus somewhat - everyone has been pretty much saying the say
things. The logo's are "flat" and the portions Postgre and SQL are too disjoint,
and most people like the blue/white combo. I will make up some more interesting
ones this weekend using these notions.

Thanks Again,
-STEVEl

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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Steve Logue wrote:

Someone came up with an alligator as our totem...but nobody seemed
able to come up with a *strong* image to use :( I kinda like an elephant
or turtle...a little slower, but highly dependable...

We need something to identify with that isn't already used (ie. I
won't suggest a little devil *grin*)...

The alligators look good and certainly were more effort. If we must do
an animal, I think the original logo had it right - something FAST - a
chetah, a gazell, can't go wrong with an eagle in this country :)

But...we aren't fast...we're getting better, mind you :)

And...ummmm...an eagle is kinda like the Penguin...I don't want to
"identify" with the US ... now, a beaver might be nice? :)

OK we have a concensus somewhat - everyone has been pretty much saying
the say things. The logo's are "flat" and the portions Postgre and SQL
are too disjoint, and most people like the blue/white combo. I will
make up some more interesting ones this weekend using these notions.

Just be patient with us...we are a hard crowd to please :)

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Mattias Kregert wrote:

Hannu Krosing wrote:

I did some logos a few months ago based on a Crocodile image.
Unfortunately I have'nt had time to work on it lately.

They are still up for viewing at :

http://www.trust.ee/Info/PostgreSQL.figs/logo/page.html

I got even some positive feedback ;), especially for the
'PostgreSQL underneath' logo button on page2.

But to make a proper logo out of that material still requires some work.

I think the croco is great!

I think alot of ppl had agreed that it was, but the image needed
to be worked on...

I even like the 'commentary' at the top of the page, which we
could use as a "How we choose our Totem" page? :)

I really liked his 'doing a search over an Object-relational..."
imagine ...

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, David Gould wrote:

Steve Logue writes:

After reading the recent mailing list thread about PostgreSQL not
growing in popularity as fast as MySQL and the lack of a legible logo, I
got bored and took a stab at some. I'd like to make a new logo for
people to pass around and also get an HTML/Logo usage page in the
distribution. Feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,
-STEVEl

http://www.nettek-llc.com/postgresql/

These are not bad, although the difference in size between the "Postgre" and
the "SQL" make it a little hard to read as one word. The different background
for the two parts of the word adds to this. Still, they are attractive.

Hmmm, I have an idea, what about a Penguin?

What about *the* Penguin? He's available at www.dccomics.com...
Sorry, couldn't resist. I like the logos and will borrow them
shortly for the UGD PostgreSQL page...thanks Steve.

Cheers,
Tom

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On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Ken McGlothlen wrote:

Already taken by Apple's Quicktime product. However, a cross between
the BSD daemon 'toon and a penguin would be fairly funny; a red and
white penguin with horns and a long, barbed tail? :)

How about the BSD daemon and the Linux penguin clubing down baby harp
seals?

That would be fairly distinct and eye-catching at the same time.

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It seems to me like we need to solicit help from contest.gimp.org.

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

Steve...I looked at the ones you made, and found then a little
dry...I personally think it is going to be difficult to do a 'Powered
by' icon with an animal on it, but is it possible to *jumps* out at you?
Maybe a little depth? Maybe emboss the work PostgreSQL, so that it
stands out from the page? I like the top-left one the most, against the
white background like that, but maybe have it stick out like a button?

I'm just throwing ideas out...take or leave any and/or all of them

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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Tom Good wrote:

What about *the* Penguin? He's available at www.dccomics.com...
Sorry, couldn't resist. I like the logos and will borrow them
shortly for the UGD PostgreSQL page...thanks Steve.

Maybe we should present the idea of the logo to the keepers of the Gimp,
and have them run it as one of their monthly contests. The GNOME project
did this, and there were some fabulous logos entered by some very talented
artists.

Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Ken McGlothlen wrote:

Already taken by Apple's Quicktime product. However, a cross between
the BSD daemon 'toon and a penguin would be fairly funny; a red and
white penguin with horns and a long, barbed tail? :)

How about the BSD daemon and the Linux penguin clubing down baby harp
seals?

How about the BSD daemon just saving time and clubbing down the
Linux penguin? :)

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

How about the BSD daemon just saving time and clubbing down the Linux
penguin? :)

Linux really isn't a problem as far as I'm concerned.

You spend far too much time engaging in sniper warfare against Linux and
its users in this group. While I agree with you that Linux has some
philosophical issues that I'm not completly happy with its users do not
need our remarks or appriciate our efforts to 'save' them.

Linux will reap what it sows. (And it has)

If you wish to create dissident waves in what should be a fairly coherent
effort to produce a superior -database- system, by all means continue OS
bashing.

So long as the PostgreSQL development efforts maintain high standards and
continues to demand coherent, well designed and implemented code from the
various submiters I see no chance of us having to cope with the problems
of a completly open and arbitrary development effort (Like Linux.)

Compared to the MySQL source, PostgreSQL is remarkably clean. We have a
very nice build enviornment, clear divisions in the source tree for
various modules etc.

Lets concentrate our efforts on converting people from MySQL and WindowsNT
to Unix (any unix) and leave the OS dicksizing to the Advocacy groups.

Besides, everyone knows that Satanix is the one true OS. :)

(Satanix: When the rapture comes will you have root?)

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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jun 1998, Ken McGlothlen wrote:

Already taken by Apple's Quicktime product. However, a cross between
the BSD daemon 'toon and a penguin would be fairly funny; a red and
white penguin with horns and a long, barbed tail? :)

How about the BSD daemon and the Linux penguin clubing down baby harp
seals?

How about the BSD daemon just saving time and clubbing down the
Linux penguin? :)

I was thinking maybe the BSD daemon grilling the Linux penguin. :)

Vince.
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