PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007

PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,
Oregon on October 20th 2007. The conference will be held at Portland
State University, and like PDXPGDay during OSCON there will be a dinner
and party afterward.

This is wrongly advertised (and dead-linked) on the homepage of
http://www.postgresql.org for 20th September.

Somebody should tidy that up.

Cheers,
Stuart.

(this is not actually about the conference, but..)

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,

What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:

First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
it up like that?

Second, what does that refer to? AFAIK, we "refer to ourselves" as PGDG?
In what way is this other designation different?

//Magnus

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Magnus Hagander wrote:

(this is not actually about the conference, but..)

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,

What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:

First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing

I do not agree with you case suggestion.

it up like that?

Second, what does that refer to? AFAIK, we "refer to ourselves" as PGDG?
In what way is this other designation different?

Nobody knows about PGDG except hackers.

Everyone knows what PostgreSQL.Org is.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

//Magnus

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Magnus Hagander wrote:

(this is not actually about the conference, but..)

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,

What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:

First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
it up like that?

O.k. if this is the case then why the heck on the front page does it say:

PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference

Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Magnus Hagander wrote:

(this is not actually about the conference, but..)

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 02:28:30PM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PostgreSQL.Org is having a one day technical conference in Portland,

What the heck is PostgreSQL.Org? Two things:

First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
it up like that?

O.k. if this is the case then why the heck on the front page does it say:

PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference

Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?

I think the problem is that you uppercased letters in an url.

As a suggestion, if you want to refer to the PostgreSQL community, why
not just say "the PostgreSQL community"? That way you avoid getting the
guys on their nerves.

--
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The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc.

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Alvaro Herrera wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference

Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?

I think the problem is that you uppercased letters in an url.

As a suggestion, if you want to refer to the PostgreSQL community, why
not just say "the PostgreSQL community"? That way you avoid getting the
guys on their nerves.

Well honestly, I didn't even know it was a problem. I am of no opinion
either way. I can change it on postgresqlconference.org. I was just
trying to be as explicit as possible.

Joshua D. Drake

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Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Alvaro Herrera wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PGDay, the first European PostgreSQL conference

Or is your complaint that I uppercased the O in .Org?

I think the problem is that you uppercased letters in an url.

As a suggestion, if you want to refer to the PostgreSQL community, why
not just say "the PostgreSQL community"? That way you avoid getting the
guys on their nerves.

Well honestly, I didn't even know it was a problem. I am of no opinion
either way. I can change it on postgresqlconference.org. I was just
trying to be as explicit as possible.

I have changed the PostgreSQL.org (man it is weird to type it that way)
verbiage on the conference site.

Joshua D. Drake

Joshua D. Drake

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"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:

For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Just to let you know:
There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
<http://www.postgresqlconference.org/&gt; is OK, but
<http://postgresqlconference.org/&gt; shows only an empty directory.

Rainer

On 30 Aug 2007 at 17:54, Rainer Bauer wrote:

"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:

For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Just to let you know:
There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
<http://www.postgresqlconference.org/&gt; is OK, but
<http://postgresqlconference.org/&gt; shows only an empty directory.

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

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Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 17:54, Rainer Bauer wrote:

"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:

For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Just to let you know:
There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
<http://www.postgresqlconference.org/&gt; is OK, but
<http://postgresqlconference.org/&gt; shows only an empty directory.

This is fixed.

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 17:54, Rainer Bauer wrote:

"Joshua D. Drake" wrote:

For more information please visit http://www.postgresqlconference.org/

Just to let you know:
There seems to be a problem with the www subdomain:
<http://www.postgresqlconference.org/&gt; is OK, but
<http://postgresqlconference.org/&gt; shows only an empty directory.

This is fixed.

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

--
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Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
between the two.

Joshua D. Drake

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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

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Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not
until spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the
registration form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious
abbreviation. Considering the audience we can expect that there
will be no confusion between the two.

I think it's a brand, and you can use a different one out of
deference and to avoid confusion. :)

Cheers,
David.
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Joshua D. Drake wrote:

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Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
between the two.

Drake's is going to be "The PGCon". :-)

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On Thursday 30 August 2007 13:28, David Fetter wrote:

I think it's a brand, and you can use a different one out of
deference and to avoid confusion. :)

Come on Josh, pick another term. I know you have a large vocabulary, I've heard you use it! :-)

Robert

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David Fetter wrote:

On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:13:05AM -0700, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious
abbreviation. Considering the audience we can expect that there
will be no confusion between the two.

I think it's a brand, and you can use a different one out of
deference and to avoid confusion. :)

Well I already changed it to Pg Conference, as it really doesn't matter
to me but I would humbly ask then that he remove all references to "The" ;)

Joshua D. Drake

Cheers,
David.

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Bruce Momjian wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

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Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
between the two.

Drake's is going to be "The PGCon". :-)

I can't... Dan already has The PostgreSQL Conference labeled.

Although please, and this is important. This is not *my* conference. It
a PostgreSQL community conference. All registration donations are being
processed by Software in the Public Interest. All sponsorships are being
processed by Software in the Public Interest. 100% of all donations
collected are being processed by Software in the public interest.

I, and CMD are making zero dollars on this (although we are spending our
fair share to make it happen).

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:02:40AM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:

First, our domain is postgresql.org. Not PostgreSQL.Org. That just looks
weird and ugly, really. I thought we had previously agreed on not messing
it up like that?

<hat=dns-fair-expert>

I hate to tell you that every one of the following are exactly
equivalent for resolution purposes in the DNS:

PostgreSQL.org
postgreSQL.org
PostgreSQL.Org
PostgreSQL.ORG
POSTGRESQL.ORG
postgresql.org
PoStGrEsQl.oRg

And any other VaRIOus caPITalisation you care to think of. DNS is
case-preserving and not case sensitive. If you want people to find
you through the Web, it makes no difference at all.

</hat>

A

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On 8/30/2007 1:29 PM Bruce Momjian wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

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Dan Langille wrote:

On 30 Aug 2007 at 10:02, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

It also mentions PGCon Fall 2007 at that URL. PGCon is not until
spring 2008.

No it abbreviates PostgreSQL Conference to PGCon in the registration
form. That is all.

PGCon is pretty well recognized as another existing conference. I
suggest another expression would be better suited.

Not to be unkind, but you named your conference an obvious abbreviation.
Considering the audience we can expect that there will be no confusion
between the two.

Drake's is going to be "The PGCon". :-)

Maybe The PGConSQL ....