Building Windows fat clients

On Wednesday 19 September 2007 10:19, Scott Ribe wrote:

I'm asking this group because we tend to think alike wrt to data modeling
and separation of concerns ;-)

Any recommendations on ORM libraries for new Windows development? The last
time I started anything from scratch was over 10 years ago, and the "state
of the art" seemed to be to smash everything together into event handlers
on GUI objects. Ugh. I pulled the M of the MVC out into separate coherent
classes and implemented a *very* simple ORM, leaving the VC mostly
conflated in the event handlers--which is not too bad since this app will
never need to be cross-platform.

So the dev tool was discontinued, some closed-source libraries are getting
less and less compatible by the year, and we're going to rewrite. Where to
start? It's a custom Windows-only app, only installed at one site. Using
.NET would be fine. C# or C++ would be most-preferred language choices,
although we could suck it up and use Java. I don't want to put VB on the
table.

Leaning toward Visual Studio .NET because I know it will be around (in
whatever morphed form) for a while; but also considering Borland's
supposedly revitalized C++ tools because I used C++ Builder with success
back when MS C++ compilers were still awful. I should probably mention that
the Windows apps, with the exception of one complicated "explore customer's
entire history here" screen, are pretty simple; the complexity is in
reports and stored procedures.

Suggestions where to start?

If you like python you might want to check www.dabodev.com. Dabo was designed
to access data.
--
John Fabiani

There's NHibernate, which is a C# port of Java's Hibernate. I've got
no idea if it's any good, but using it might give you a Java Escape
Route if you needed someday to go cross platform.

-- Ilan

On Sep 19, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Scott Ribe wrote:

I'm asking this group because we tend to think alike wrt to data
modeling
and separation of concerns ;-)

Any recommendations on ORM libraries for new Windows development?
The last
time I started anything from scratch was over 10 years ago, and the
"state
of the art" seemed to be to smash everything together into event
handlers on
GUI objects. Ugh. I pulled the M of the MVC out into separate coherent
classes and implemented a *very* simple ORM, leaving the VC mostly
conflated
in the event handlers--which is not too bad since this app will
never need
to be cross-platform.

So the dev tool was discontinued, some closed-source libraries are
getting
less and less compatible by the year, and we're going to rewrite.
Where to
start? It's a custom Windows-only app, only installed at one site.
Using
.NET would be fine. C# or C++ would be most-preferred language
choices,
although we could suck it up and use Java. I don't want to put VB
on the
table.

Leaning toward Visual Studio .NET because I know it will be around (in
whatever morphed form) for a while; but also considering Borland's
supposedly revitalized C++ tools because I used C++ Builder with
success
back when MS C++ compilers were still awful. I should probably
mention that
the Windows apps, with the exception of one complicated "explore
customer's
entire history here" screen, are pretty simple; the complexity is
in reports
and stored procedures.

Suggestions where to start?

--
Scott Ribe
scott_ribe@killerbytes.com
http://www.killerbytes.com/
(303) 722-0567 voice

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