Client Encoding and Latin characters

Started by Lee Hachadoorianover 16 years ago3 messagesgeneral
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#1Lee Hachadoorian
lee.hachadoorian@gmail.com

My database is encoded UTF8. I recently was uploading (via COPY) some
census data which included place names with ñ, é, ü, and other such
characters. The upload choked on the Latin characters. Following the
docs, I was able to fix this with:

SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO 'LATIN1';
COPY table FROM 'filename';

After which I

SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO 'UTF8';

I typically use COPY FROM to bulk load data. My question is, is there
any disadvantage to setting the default client_encoding as LATIN1? I
expect to never be dealing with Asian languages, or most of the other
LATINx languages. If I ever try to COPY FROM data incompatible with
LATIN1, the command will just choke, and I can pick an appropriate
encoding and try again, right?

Thanks,
--Lee

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Lee Hachadoorian
PhD Student, Geography
Program in Earth & Environmental Sciences
CUNY Graduate Center

#2Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Lee Hachadoorian (#1)
Re: Client Encoding and Latin characters

Lee Hachadoorian <lee.hachadoorian@gmail.com> writes:

My database is encoded UTF8. I recently was uploading (via COPY) some
census data which included place names with �, �, �, and other such
characters. The upload choked on the Latin characters. Following the
docs, I was able to fix this with:

SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO 'LATIN1';
COPY table FROM 'filename';

After which I

SET CLIENT_ENCODING TO 'UTF8';

I typically use COPY FROM to bulk load data. My question is, is there
any disadvantage to setting the default client_encoding as LATIN1? I
expect to never be dealing with Asian languages, or most of the other
LATINx languages. If I ever try to COPY FROM data incompatible with
LATIN1, the command will just choke, and I can pick an appropriate
encoding and try again, right?

Uh, no. You can pretty much assume that LATIN1 will take any random
byte string; likewise for any other single-byte encoding. UTF8 as a
default is a bit safer because it's significantly more likely that it
will be able to detect non-UTF8 input.

regards, tom lane

#3Lee Hachadoorian
lee.hachadoorian@gmail.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)
Re: Client Encoding and Latin characters

Uh, no.  You can pretty much assume that LATIN1 will take any random
byte string; likewise for any other single-byte encoding.  UTF8 as a
default is a bit safer because it's significantly more likely that it
will be able to detect non-UTF8 input.

                       regards, tom lane

So, IIUC, the general approach is:

*Leave the default client_encoding = server_encoding (in this case UTF8)
*Rely on the client to change client_encoding on a session basis only

Thanks,
--Lee

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Lee Hachadoorian
PhD Student, Geography
Program in Earth & Environmental Sciences
CUNY Graduate Center