deferrable foreign keys

Started by Morus Walterover 16 years ago4 messagesgeneral
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#1Morus Walter
morus.walter.ml@googlemail.com

Hi,

are there downsides of making foreign keys deferrable (but initially
immediate) for updates, when the transaction does not set the
constraint behaviour to deferred?

I'd expect that to have the same behaviour as non deferrable foreign
keys.
What I don't understand is, why is non deferrable the default, then.

So maybe I miss something.

regards
Morus

#2Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz
gryzman@gmail.com
In reply to: Morus Walter (#1)
Re: deferrable foreign keys

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Morus Walter <morus.walter.ml@googlemail.com

wrote:

Hi,

are there downsides of making foreign keys deferrable (but initially
immediate) for updates, when the transaction does not set the
constraint behaviour to deferred?

I'd expect that to have the same behaviour as non deferrable foreign
keys.
What I don't understand is, why is non deferrable the default, then.

it is just sometimes desired to not check the constraints, until comit. For

instance, if you run bit of code that is old, and you don't want to mess
around with keys.
Or you have some strange way of putting information together.
Basically it is all about order of operation within transaction. Sometimes
it cannot be guaranteed, and hence an option to defer the constraint check.

--
GJ

#3Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Morus Walter (#1)
Re: deferrable foreign keys

Morus Walter <morus.walter.ml@googlemail.com> writes:

are there downsides of making foreign keys deferrable (but initially
immediate) for updates, when the transaction does not set the
constraint behaviour to deferred?

I'd expect that to have the same behaviour as non deferrable foreign
keys.
What I don't understand is, why is non deferrable the default, then.

Because the SQL standard says so. I don't believe there is any actual
penalty for deferrable within the PG implementation, but perhaps there
is in other systems' implementations.

regards, tom lane

#4Morus Walter
morus.walter.ml@googlemail.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#3)
Re: deferrable foreign keys

Hallo Tom,

Morus Walter <morus.walter.ml@googlemail.com> writes:

are there downsides of making foreign keys deferrable (but initially
immediate) for updates, when the transaction does not set the
constraint behaviour to deferred?

I'd expect that to have the same behaviour as non deferrable foreign
keys.
What I don't understand is, why is non deferrable the default, then.

Because the SQL standard says so.

Ok. Understood.

I don't believe there is any actual
penalty for deferrable within the PG implementation, but perhaps there
is in other systems' implementations.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Morus