Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

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#1Andre Lopes
lopes80andre@gmail.com

Hi,

I need an hosting account with PostgreSQL and PHP. I have signed an account
with HostNine.com, but the PostgreSQL is the 8.1, and don't allow to create
Languages and Triggers, so I can't get the website working...

Please tell me if you know a good hosting with PostgreSQL that allow
Triggers and all functionalities og PostgreSQL.

Best Regards,

#2John DeSoi
desoi@pgedit.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#1)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I need an hosting account with PostgreSQL and PHP. I have signed an account with HostNine.com, but the PostgreSQL is the 8.1, and don't allow to create Languages and Triggers, so I can't get the website working...

Please tell me if you know a good hosting with PostgreSQL that allow Triggers and all functionalities og PostgreSQL.

You can find a list of hosting providers here:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting

If you are looking for shared hosting, I doubt you'll find any that will let you create languages. But if you need to create triggers with SQL or pl/pgsql, that should not be a problem.

Of course, many offer VPS hosting where you could setup Postgres yourself and configure it any way you like.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#3Andre Lopes
lopes80andre@gmail.com
In reply to: John DeSoi (#2)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

Hi,

I have sign an account with HostNine.com, but PostgreSQL version is 8.1 and
don't allow triggers... I must to change host, the web app is using
triggers...

Anyone know a host that have triggers available?

Best Regards,

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM, John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

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On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I need an hosting account with PostgreSQL and PHP. I have signed an

account with HostNine.com, but the PostgreSQL is the 8.1, and don't allow to
create Languages and Triggers, so I can't get the website working...

Please tell me if you know a good hosting with PostgreSQL that allow

Triggers and all functionalities og PostgreSQL.

You can find a list of hosting providers here:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting

If you are looking for shared hosting, I doubt you'll find any that will
let you create languages. But if you need to create triggers with SQL or
pl/pgsql, that should not be a problem.

Of course, many offer VPS hosting where you could setup Postgres yourself
and configure it any way you like.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#4John DeSoi
desoi@pgedit.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#3)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

From the list I already sent, I'm certain this one allows triggers:

http://www.a2hosting.com/database/postgresql-hosting

I can also setup such an account for you, but I can't beat their price of $5.72 a month :)

On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

Hi,

I have sign an account with HostNine.com, but PostgreSQL version is 8.1 and don't allow triggers... I must to change host, the web app is using triggers...

Anyone know a host that have triggers available?

Best Regards,

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM, John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I need an hosting account with PostgreSQL and PHP. I have signed an account with HostNine.com, but the PostgreSQL is the 8.1, and don't allow to create Languages and Triggers, so I can't get the website working...

Please tell me if you know a good hosting with PostgreSQL that allow Triggers and all functionalities og PostgreSQL.

You can find a list of hosting providers here:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting

If you are looking for shared hosting, I doubt you'll find any that will let you create languages. But if you need to create triggers with SQL or pl/pgsql, that should not be a problem.

Of course, many offer VPS hosting where you could setup Postgres yourself and configure it any way you like.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#5Raymond C. Rodgers
sinful622@gmail.com
In reply to: John DeSoi (#4)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

Yeah, I was just going to recommend them; I went through the exact same
thing a few months ago and got the same advice. HostNine looks great,
but an [very] out of date Postgres isn't very helpful. I've enjoyed A2
since I signed up, and it doesn't hurt that they're relatively local (30
miles away) for me to boot! :)

Raymond

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On 02/14/2010 07:11 PM, John DeSoi wrote:

From the list I already sent, I'm certain this one allows triggers:

http://www.a2hosting.com/database/postgresql-hosting

I can also setup such an account for you, but I can't beat their price of $5.72 a month :)

On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

Hi,

I have sign an account with HostNine.com, but PostgreSQL version is 8.1 and don't allow triggers... I must to change host, the web app is using triggers...

Anyone know a host that have triggers available?

Best Regards,

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM, John DeSoi<desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I need an hosting account with PostgreSQL and PHP. I have signed an account with HostNine.com, but the PostgreSQL is the 8.1, and don't allow to create Languages and Triggers, so I can't get the website working...

Please tell me if you know a good hosting with PostgreSQL that allow Triggers and all functionalities og PostgreSQL.

You can find a list of hosting providers here:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting

If you are looking for shared hosting, I doubt you'll find any that will let you create languages. But if you need to create triggers with SQL or pl/pgsql, that should not be a problem.

Of course, many offer VPS hosting where you could setup Postgres yourself and configure it any way you like.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#6Andre Lopes
lopes80andre@gmail.com
In reply to: Raymond C. Rodgers (#5)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

A2hosting.com supports Triggers, but in the WebHosting Plan and in the
Reseller Plan the Triggers creation is not done by the user, we must send
the Trigger to the support center and then they compile the Trigger...

A2hosting have also VPS Hosting, but I'am not a total expert in Linux... and
it is up to the user to keep their software up to date however...

It is secure for non experts to have VPS for hosting webapplications?

Best Regards,

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Raymond C. Rodgers <sinful622@gmail.com>wrote:

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Yeah, I was just going to recommend them; I went through the exact same
thing a few months ago and got the same advice. HostNine looks great, but an
[very] out of date Postgres isn't very helpful. I've enjoyed A2 since I
signed up, and it doesn't hurt that they're relatively local (30 miles away)
for me to boot! :)

Raymond

On 02/14/2010 07:11 PM, John DeSoi wrote:

From the list I already sent, I'm certain this one allows triggers:

http://www.a2hosting.com/database/postgresql-hosting

I can also setup such an account for you, but I can't beat their price of
$5.72 a month :)

On Feb 14, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

Hi,

I have sign an account with HostNine.com, but PostgreSQL version is 8.1
and don't allow triggers... I must to change host, the web app is using
triggers...

Anyone know a host that have triggers available?

Best Regards,

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM, John DeSoi<desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

On Feb 13, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I need an hosting account with PostgreSQL and PHP. I have signed an
account with HostNine.com, but the PostgreSQL is the 8.1, and don't allow to
create Languages and Triggers, so I can't get the website working...

Please tell me if you know a good hosting with PostgreSQL that allow
Triggers and all functionalities og PostgreSQL.

You can find a list of hosting providers here:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_hosting

If you are looking for shared hosting, I doubt you'll find any that will
let you create languages. But if you need to create triggers with SQL or
pl/pgsql, that should not be a problem.

Of course, many offer VPS hosting where you could setup Postgres yourself
and configure it any way you like.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

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#7Joao Ferreira gmail
joao.miguel.c.ferreira@gmail.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#6)
CLUSTER on 2 indexes ?

Hello,

Considering the CLUSTER operation on a frequently updated table, if I
have 2 indexes on the table how do I choose one of them ? or is it
possible to have CLUSTER take both into consideration...

my table is read from based on two columns: a 'timestamp' integer column
(actually a UTC integer timestamp) and a text columun called 'var' that
separates raw data from each other... something like a 'product type' in
a wharehouse example.

All queries that read from the table specify a time range and also the
'product type'. I have indexes on both.

Evidently no CLUSTERing should be worse than clustering on any of them,
but is there a way to have the two or choose the most profitable ?

thanks
Joao

#8Scott Marlowe
scott.marlowe@gmail.com
In reply to: Joao Ferreira gmail (#7)
Re: CLUSTER on 2 indexes ?

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Joao Ferreira gmail
<joao.miguel.c.ferreira@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Considering the CLUSTER operation on a frequently updated table, if I
have 2 indexes on the table how do I choose one of them ? or is it
possible to have CLUSTER take both into consideration...

You could have a multi-column index

#9John DeSoi
desoi@pgedit.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#6)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

A2hosting.com supports Triggers, but in the WebHosting Plan and in the Reseller Plan the Triggers creation is not done by the user, we must send the Trigger to the support center and then they compile the Trigger...

Where did you hear this? I have a reseller account and I have created many triggers using pl/pgsql. Are you wanting to create triggers with C or some other language that requires superuser access?

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#10Andre Lopes
lopes80andre@gmail.com
In reply to: John DeSoi (#9)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

Hi,

I have talk with the support. Here is the conversation:

[quote]
Matt T. - A2 Hosting Support: Hello, how may I help you today?
André Lopes: I need to know if a2hosting allows Trigger creation in
PostgreSQL databases
Matt T. - A2 Hosting Support: Yes but our admins would need to create them
for you via a support ticket
[/quote]

Maybe is for new customers. I will talk again with the support.

Thanks.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM, John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

Show quoted text

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

A2hosting.com supports Triggers, but in the WebHosting Plan and in the

Reseller Plan the Triggers creation is not done by the user, we must send
the Trigger to the support center and then they compile the Trigger...

Where did you hear this? I have a reseller account and I have created many
triggers using pl/pgsql. Are you wanting to create triggers with C or some
other language that requires superuser access?

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#11Andre Lopes
lopes80andre@gmail.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#10)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

I have contacted again the support center on a2hosting.com and the answer
was that is no manual creation of triggers on PostgreSQL, bu the guy have
send to me a link with MySQL information about the subject,
https://support.a2hosting.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&amp;_a=viewarticle&amp;kbarticleid=500

There are more a2hosting customers here that can create Triggers?

Best Regards,

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Andre Lopes <lopes80andre@gmail.com> wrote:

Show quoted text

Hi,

I have talk with the support. Here is the conversation:

[quote]
Matt T. - A2 Hosting Support: Hello, how may I help you today?
André Lopes: I need to know if a2hosting allows Trigger creation in
PostgreSQL databases
Matt T. - A2 Hosting Support: Yes but our admins would need to create them
for you via a support ticket
[/quote]

Maybe is for new customers. I will talk again with the support.

Thanks.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM, John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

A2hosting.com supports Triggers, but in the WebHosting Plan and in the

Reseller Plan the Triggers creation is not done by the user, we must send
the Trigger to the support center and then they compile the Trigger...

Where did you hear this? I have a reseller account and I have created many
triggers using pl/pgsql. Are you wanting to create triggers with C or some
other language that requires superuser access?

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#12Allan Kamau
kamauallan@gmail.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#11)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Andre Lopes <lopes80andre@gmail.com> wrote:

I have contacted again the support center on a2hosting.com and the answer
was that is no manual creation of triggers on PostgreSQL, bu the guy have
send to me a link with MySQL information about the subject,
https://support.a2hosting.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&amp;_a=viewarticle&amp;kbarticleid=500

There are more a2hosting customers here that can create Triggers?

Best Regards,

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Andre Lopes <lopes80andre@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have talk with the support. Here is the conversation:

[quote]
Matt T. - A2 Hosting Support: Hello, how may I help you today?
André Lopes: I need to know if a2hosting allows Trigger creation in
PostgreSQL databases
Matt T. - A2 Hosting Support: Yes but our admins would need to create them
for you via a support ticket
[/quote]

Maybe is for new customers. I will talk again with the support.

Thanks.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM, John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> wrote:

On Feb 15, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Andre Lopes wrote:

A2hosting.com supports Triggers, but in the WebHosting Plan and in the
Reseller Plan the Triggers creation is not done by the user, we must send
the Trigger to the support center and then they compile the Trigger...

Where did you hear this? I have a reseller account and I have created
many triggers using pl/pgsql. Are you wanting to create triggers with C or
some other language that requires superuser access?

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

I have hosted with eApps (http://www.eapps.com/) for a while, they
employ the virtual machine concept using parallels. The developer
category of service plan may you get a "machine" and you get to be
root. PostgreSQL, PHP, Java (including application containers such as
Tomcat and JBoss) and so on are available. I find them reasonably
priced. On the linux server they give you you may further
install/build an software of your choice including maybe another
instance of the latest PostgreSQL.

Allan.

#13Scott Marlowe
scott.marlowe@gmail.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#6)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Andre Lopes <lopes80andre@gmail.com> wrote:

A2hosting.com supports Triggers, but in the WebHosting Plan and in the
Reseller Plan the Triggers creation is not done by the user, we must send
the Trigger to the support center and then they compile the Trigger...

A2hosting have also VPS Hosting, but I'am not a total expert in Linux... and
it is up to the user to keep their software up to date however...

It is secure for non experts to have VPS for hosting webapplications?

As long as you keep your machine reasonably up to date you should be
ok. And keep off-site backups of course, but that's true no matter
whether you use managed or virtual machine hosting.

#14John R Pierce
pierce@hogranch.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#6)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

Andre Lopes wrote:

It is secure for non experts to have VPS for hosting webapplications?

frankly, its not secure to have non-experts posting PHP, never mind
anything else.

#15Scott Marlowe
scott.marlowe@gmail.com
In reply to: John R Pierce (#14)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:25 PM, John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> wrote:

Andre Lopes wrote:

It is secure for non experts to have VPS for hosting webapplications?

frankly, its not secure to have non-experts posting PHP, never mind anything
else.

Just remove the PHP and you're closer to the truth there. PHP isn't
the problem, non-security minded coders are.

#16John DeSoi
desoi@pgedit.com
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#11)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I have contacted again the support center on a2hosting.com and the answer was that is no manual creation of triggers on PostgreSQL, bu the guy have send to me a link with MySQL information about the subject,https://support.a2hosting.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&amp;_a=viewarticle&amp;kbarticleid=500

There are more a2hosting customers here that can create Triggers?

My guess is that the support person does not know what they are talking about. Unless something is different for new accounts, you have psql access to your databases. You also have access via phpPgAdmin which can create functions and triggers. Your account user owns the databases you create, so I don't see how they can prevent you from creating triggers.

They have a 30 day money back guarantee, so it might be worth trying out.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.

#17Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: John DeSoi (#16)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> writes:

On Feb 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Andre Lopes wrote:

I have contacted again the support center on a2hosting.com and the answer was that is no manual creation of triggers on PostgreSQL, bu the guy have send to me a link with MySQL information about the subject,https://support.a2hosting.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&amp;_a=viewarticle&amp;kbarticleid=500

There are more a2hosting customers here that can create Triggers?

My guess is that the support person does not know what they are
talking about.

Yeah, it certainly gives off a vibe of "doesn't know Postgres and isn't
interested in learning".

It's possible that what they give you is databases without any PLs
installed, and without either superuser or database owner privileges so
you can't install PLs yourself. In which case it'd be true that you
can't create any triggers either, but that would hardly be the first
reason why such a setup wouldn't be very acceptable. Seems more
likely that you just have a clueless support person.

regards, tom lane

#18Tommy Gildseth
tommy.gildseth@usit.uio.no
In reply to: Andre Lopes (#11)
Re: Hosting Account with PostgreSQL and PHP?

Andre Lopes wrote:

I have contacted again the support center on a2hosting.com
<http://a2hosting.com&gt; and the answer was that is no manual creation of
triggers on PostgreSQL, bu the guy have send to me a link with MySQL
information about the subject,
https://support.a2hosting.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&amp;_a=viewarticle&amp;kbarticleid=500
<https://support.a2hosting.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&amp;_a=viewarticle&amp;kbarticleid=500&gt;

There are more a2hosting customers here that can create Triggers?

This gives me the feeling that the support center doesn't know what
they're talking about, and thinks Postgres works the same way as MySQL,
where you do indeed have to be an administrator to create triggers.

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