Access to NEW.column outside of a trigger function.

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#1Gauthier, Dave
dave.gauthier@intel.com

I have a check constraint that runs a PlPgsql function which returns a pass/fail status which the constraint uses to allow or disallow the value. This is not a trigger function. It's just a plain-ole PlPgsql. Is there a way I can read (not write, just read) the NEW.column values that a trigger function would normally have access to?

Thanks in Advance for any help.

#2Jerry Sievers
gsievers19@comcast.net
In reply to: Gauthier, Dave (#1)
Re: Access to NEW.column outside of a trigger function.

"Gauthier, Dave" <dave.gauthier@intel.com> writes:

I have a check constraint that runs a PlPgsql function which returns a
pass/ fail status which the constraint uses to allow or disallow the
value. This is not a trigger function. It's just a plain-ole
PlPgsql. Is there a way I can read (not write, just read) the
NEW.column values that a trigger function would normally have access
to?

Sure. Just pass them into your validator func as parameters.

But why are you avoiding use of a trigger here?

Thanks in Advance for any help.

--
Jerry Sievers
Postgres DBA/Development Consulting
e: gsievers19@comcast.net
p: 305.321.1144

#3Gauthier, Dave
dave.gauthier@intel.com
In reply to: Jerry Sievers (#2)
Re: Access to NEW.column outside of a trigger function.

Ya, I know I could pass them in. Just wanted to know if they were already floating around out there as globals or something. That way I wouldn't have to drop/recreate the constraint itself.

These would be constraint violations where the name of the constraint being violated is in the returned message (should there be a violation). I named the constraints to identify the column and describe the nature of the problem. Not sure how to capture that info if the trigger disallowed the value.

Also, I need to defer constraint checking for some transactions. Making the trigger sensitive to this deferral is not something that I wanted to devote a lot of time to. It just seemed more natural to keep this as a check constraint.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Sievers [mailto:gsievers19@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:14 PM
To: Gauthier, Dave
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Access to NEW.column outside of a trigger function.

"Gauthier, Dave" <dave.gauthier@intel.com> writes:

I have a check constraint that runs a PlPgsql function which returns a
pass/ fail status which the constraint uses to allow or disallow the
value. This is not a trigger function. It's just a plain-ole
PlPgsql. Is there a way I can read (not write, just read) the
NEW.column values that a trigger function would normally have access
to?

Sure. Just pass them into your validator func as parameters.

But why are you avoiding use of a trigger here?

Thanks in Advance for any help.

--
Jerry Sievers
Postgres DBA/Development Consulting
e: gsievers19@comcast.net
p: 305.321.1144

#4Darren Duncan
darren@darrenduncan.net
In reply to: Gauthier, Dave (#3)
Re: Access to NEW.column outside of a trigger function.

From a design standpoint, CHECK constraints are better than triggers in
general, and if it is possible to do what you want in a CHECK constraint, you
should choose that option, and leave triggers for other tasks that you can't use
CHECK for.

Or to put this a different way, triggers are the proper way to do
non-deterministic things such as constraints or actions that depend on the
current system time, while CHECK is better for deterministic things such as
constraints a database should always have that only require looking at the
contents of the database itself.

-- Darren Duncan

Gauthier, Dave wrote:

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Ya, I know I could pass them in. Just wanted to know if they were already floating around out there as globals or something. That way I wouldn't have to drop/recreate the constraint itself.

These would be constraint violations where the name of the constraint being violated is in the returned message (should there be a violation). I named the constraints to identify the column and describe the nature of the problem. Not sure how to capture that info if the trigger disallowed the value.

Also, I need to defer constraint checking for some transactions. Making the trigger sensitive to this deferral is not something that I wanted to devote a lot of time to. It just seemed more natural to keep this as a check constraint.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Sievers [mailto:gsievers19@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:14 PM
To: Gauthier, Dave
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Access to NEW.column outside of a trigger function.

"Gauthier, Dave" <dave.gauthier@intel.com> writes:

I have a check constraint that runs a PlPgsql function which returns a
pass/ fail status which the constraint uses to allow or disallow the
value. This is not a trigger function. It's just a plain-ole
PlPgsql. Is there a way I can read (not write, just read) the
NEW.column values that a trigger function would normally have access
to?

Sure. Just pass them into your validator func as parameters.

But why are you avoiding use of a trigger here?

Thanks in Advance for any help.