Database system identifier via SELECT?

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#1Chris Redekop
chris@replicon.com

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and I'd
like be able to verify from the client side that the provided primary and
secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data set...

#2Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Chris Redekop (#1)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and I'd
like be able to verify from the client side that the provided primary and
secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I can't
see a way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function that
calls GetSystemIdentifier().

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#3Joshua D. Drake
jd@commandprompt.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#2)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

On 12/08/2011 12:57 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and I'd
like be able to verify from the client side that the provided primary and
secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I can't
see a way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function that
calls GetSystemIdentifier().

This seems like something we should have in core, don't you think?

JD

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#4David G. Johnston
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In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#2)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Database system identifier via SELECT?

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and
I'd like be able to verify from the client side that the provided
primary and secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data

set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I can't see a
way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function that
calls GetSystemIdentifier().

---------------------------------------------------

Maybe I mis-understand the question but how about:

SHOW listen_addresses; (of the functional equivalent)

You just need to make sure each server is listening to a specific IP and/or
Port and just tag off of that.

David J.

#5Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Joshua D. Drake (#3)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

On 12/08/2011 12:57 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and I'd
like be able to verify from the client side that the provided primary and
secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I can't
see a way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function that
calls GetSystemIdentifier().

This seems like something we should have in core, don't you think?

Yeah, kind of, except this is the first request we ever got for this.
The identifier is passed as part of streaming replication, so maybe it
will be needed more in the future.

--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +

#6Scott Mead
scottm@openscg.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#5)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

On 12/08/2011 12:57 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and

I'd

like be able to verify from the client side that the provided primary

and

secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I can't
see a way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function that
calls GetSystemIdentifier().

select inet_server_addr()?

--Scott

Show quoted text

This seems like something we should have in core, don't you think?

Yeah, kind of, except this is the first request we ever got for this.
The identifier is passed as part of streaming replication, so maybe it
will be needed more in the future.

--
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EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +

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#7Safari Code
safaricode@gmail.com
In reply to: Scott Mead (#6)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

You can get the database system identifier from the OS shell as part of the
control data:
pg_controldata /Library/PostgreSQL/9.1/data

Here, '/Library/PostgreSQL/9.1/data' is my data directory on os x; replace
it with your own data directory.

From there, you can isolate the database system identifier with grep:

pg_controldata /Library/PostgreSQL/9.1/data | grep "system identifier"

This is not the same as calling a function within a SELECT statement, but
using the shell command above, one could easily write a function that
returns the database system identifier as a string in a SQL query.

I hope this solves the problem.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:

Show quoted text

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

On 12/08/2011 12:57 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and

I'd

like be able to verify from the client side that the provided

primary and

secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I can't
see a way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function

that

calls GetSystemIdentifier().

select inet_server_addr()?

--Scott

This seems like something we should have in core, don't you think?

Yeah, kind of, except this is the first request we ever got for this.
The identifier is passed as part of streaming replication, so maybe it
will be needed more in the future.

--
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EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

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#8Chris Redekop
chris@replicon.com
In reply to: Safari Code (#7)
Re: Database system identifier via SELECT?

Yeah, it would be easy enough to write a custom extension to do it. I was
hoping for something built-in so I wouldn't require a pre-req extension be
installed on all servers by the superuser....sysadmins tend to resist
making such changes. But oh well what you gotta do you gotta do....thanks
guys.

FYI this isn't the first time it's been asked for...
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-sql/2007-07/msg00045.php ...first time
in 4 years tho :P

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Safari Code <safaricode@gmail.com> wrote:

Show quoted text

You can get the database system identifier from the OS shell as part of
the control data:
pg_controldata /Library/PostgreSQL/9.1/data

Here, '/Library/PostgreSQL/9.1/data' is my data directory on os x; replace
it with your own data directory.
From there, you can isolate the database system identifier with grep:
pg_controldata /Library/PostgreSQL/9.1/data | grep "system identifier"

This is not the same as calling a function within a SELECT statement, but
using the shell command above, one could easily write a function that
returns the database system identifier as a string in a SQL query.

I hope this solves the problem.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Scott Mead <scottm@openscg.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

Joshua D. Drake wrote:

On 12/08/2011 12:57 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

Chris Redekop wrote:

Is there any way to get the database system identifier via a select
statement? I have a primary/secondary async replication setup, and

I'd

like be able to verify from the client side that the provided

primary and

secondary connection strings do in fact refer to the same data

set...

Wow, that is a reasonable thing to want available via SQL, but I

can't

see a way to get to it.

The only method I can suggest is to write a server-side C function

that

calls GetSystemIdentifier().

select inet_server_addr()?

--Scott

This seems like something we should have in core, don't you think?

Yeah, kind of, except this is the first request we ever got for this.
The identifier is passed as part of streaming replication, so maybe it
will be needed more in the future.

--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com

+ It's impossible for everything to be true. +

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