timestamp with timezone and time zone name

Shridhar Daithankar <ghodechhap@ghodechhap.net> writes:

I am wondering, why following two values result in a shift by 3.5 hours. I
would expect them to be identical.

I understand that canonical time zone names could be ambiguous at times but I
think IST is not one of them.

I don't know why you'd think that ...

src/timezone/tznames/Asia.txt:IST 19800 # Indian Standard Time
src/timezone/tznames/Asia.txt:IST 7200 # Israel Standard Time

... and there's some references to "Irish Summer Time" in the Olson
database, as well. IIRC, IST was one of the primary problems that
forced us to invent the "timezone_abbreviations" configuration
mechanism. Try setting that to "India" if you want the 05:30 meaning.

regards, tom lane

On Tuesday 07 Aug 2012 12:21:04 AM Tom Lane wrote:

Shridhar Daithankar <ghodechhap@ghodechhap.net> writes:

I am wondering, why following two values result in a shift by 3.5 hours. I
would expect them to be identical.

I understand that canonical time zone names could be ambiguous at times
but I think IST is not one of them.

I don't know why you'd think that ...

src/timezone/tznames/Asia.txt:IST 19800 # Indian Standard Time
src/timezone/tznames/Asia.txt:IST 7200 # Israel Standard Time

My bad.. should have searched a bit more.

... and there's some references to "Irish Summer Time" in the Olson
database, as well. IIRC, IST was one of the primary problems that
forced us to invent the "timezone_abbreviations" configuration
mechanism. Try setting that to "India" if you want the 05:30 meaning.

Thanks. I will stick to the numerical offsets for uniformity.
--
Regards
Shridhar

On 08/07/2012 08:36 PM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:

On Tuesday 07 Aug 2012 12:21:04 AM Tom Lane wrote:

Shridhar Daithankar <ghodechhap@ghodechhap.net> writes:

I am wondering, why following two values result in a shift by 3.5

hours. I

would expect them to be identical.

I understand that canonical time zone names could be ambiguous at

times

but I think IST is not one of them.

I don't know why you'd think that ...

src/timezone/tznames/Asia.txt:IST 19800 # Indian Standard Time

src/timezone/tznames/Asia.txt:IST 7200 # Israel Standard Time

My bad.. should have searched a bit more.

... and there's some references to "Irish Summer Time" in the Olson

database, as well. IIRC, IST was one of the primary problems that

forced us to invent the "timezone_abbreviations" configuration

mechanism. Try setting that to "India" if you want the 05:30 meaning.

Thanks. I will stick to the numerical offsets for uniformity.

Date/time processing has lots of potential gotchas. Spend some
quality-time with:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/datatype-datetime.html

Note that short abbreviations and numerical offsets are simple offsets
from UTC and will require you to change the offset as appropriate for
each timestamp you want to enter. For example it is perfectly OK to
enter midnight on new-year's day Eastern Daylight Time. PostgreSQL sees
this as an offset of 4-hours from UTC which you could also specify as
-04. Since January 1 is winter in New York, this may not be what you want.

select '2012-01-01 0000 EDT'::timestamptz at time zone 'UTC';
timezone
---------------------
2012-01-01 04:00:00

If you want PostgreSQL to account for DST rules (including how the rules
have changed historically), use the timezone name:

select '2012-01-01 0000 America/New_York'::timestamptz at time zone 'UTC';
timezone
---------------------
2012-01-01 05:00:00

Cheers,
Steve