Pg & Tcl - is it dying out?

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 05:45:06PM -0500, Carlo Stonebanks wrote:

As our production system are being upgraded to Windows 7 64-bit we are
finding that our Tcl apps which use the PgTcl client libraries are now
failing (couldn't load library "libpgtcl.dll": invalid argument). We have
tried downloading the latest binaries (which are 32 bit) but the problems
persist. There is little activity on the sourceforge page for the lib.

This is pretty strictly a problem for the PgTcl project and not for
the PostgreSQL project or any other associated projects.

Was there something constructive you might have been asking about that
you forgot to include in this email? If so, what was it?

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David.
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Was there something constructive you might have been asking about that

you forgot to include in this email? If so, what was it?

I don't believe I forgot anything, as there was a question in the original
post (which you did not include in your snip):

"Are we seeing the demise of PG & Tcl? Should I advise my client to NOT
upgrade any systems running Tcl apps and stick with legacy OS's?"

Not the demise of PG in general, but specifically of concern for the PG &
Tcl developers.

Is this not a constructive question, and is it NOT about PG in general? I
had asked in 2006 where to direct PG & Tcl questions and the answer was
PGSQL general. See:
/messages/by-id/725602300608011149i2a88a5b2t96817b85318
1e29c@mail.gmail.com

Is there now somewhere else I should be asking about this?

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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Pg & Tcl - is it dying out?

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 05:45:06PM -0500, Carlo Stonebanks wrote:

As our production system are being upgraded to Windows 7 64-bit we are
finding that our Tcl apps which use the PgTcl client libraries are now
failing (couldn't load library "libpgtcl.dll": invalid argument). We
have tried downloading the latest binaries (which are 32 bit) but the
problems persist. There is little activity on the sourceforge page for the

lib.

This is pretty strictly a problem for the PgTcl project and not for the
PostgreSQL project or any other associated projects.

Was there something constructive you might have been asking about that you
forgot to include in this email? If so, what was it?

Cheers,
David.
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Carlo Stonebanks <stonec.register@sympatico.ca> wrote:

"Are we seeing the demise of PG & Tcl? Should I advise my client
to NOT upgrade any systems running Tcl apps and stick with legacy
OS's?"

Not the demise of PG in general, but specifically of concern for
the PG & Tcl developers.

Your best bet to sort out the answer would probably be to look at
the github site for it that the developers created in October of
2012:

http://flightaware.github.com/Pgtcl/

It seems to be available from the Ubuntu Software Center, for both
PostgreSQL and Postgres-XC.

You could always build it from source, if there hasn't been
sufficient interest in the OS platforms in which you're interested
for anyone to have put a package out there.

-Kevin

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On 01/31/2013 10:59 AM, Carlo Stonebanks wrote:

Was there something constructive you might have been asking about that

you forgot to include in this email? If so, what was it?

I don't believe I forgot anything, as there was a question in the original
post (which you did not include in your snip):

"Are we seeing the demise of PG & Tcl? Should I advise my client to NOT
upgrade any systems running Tcl apps and stick with legacy OS's?"

Not the demise of PG in general, but specifically of concern for the PG &
Tcl developers.

Is this not a constructive question, and is it NOT about PG in general? I
had asked in 2006 where to direct PG & Tcl questions and the answer was
PGSQL general. See:
/messages/by-id/725602300608011149i2a88a5b2t96817b85318
1e29c@mail.gmail.com

Is there now somewhere else I should be asking about this?

Well I think part of the problem is that we may be talking apples and
oranges. If I am following correctly there are two PG/Tcl software
packages in play here.

) PL/Tcl

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/interactive/pltcl.html

Working with Tcl in the database.

2) PGtcl

http://flightaware.github.com/Pgtcl/

Working with PG from Tcl

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. If I am following correctly there are two PG/Tcl software packages in

play here.

Yep, but I am JUST talking about PgTcl.

There are three possible PgTcl options, two are from the same developer -
one in C, which doesn't work on Win 7 x64 (and possibly other Win platforms)
a second in pure Tcl which is platform independent but my initial tests have
it running quite a bit slower.

The third is the flightaware package, which does not have a win32 DLL
binary. There is a Visual Studio project in the Win directory (looks like an
old Visual C6.0 project which will not build) and I'm afraid I'm not
familiar with other C compilers to know how to get the make to work (in any
case, it appears to depend on a complete PostgreSQL source install - normal
for 'NIX, not for Windows).

I cannot seem to get anything that will work on a Win 7 x64 client. Perhaps
the problem is elsewhere, but right now the same code Tcl install and libs
DOES run on Windows Server 2003 and 2008 x64 machines, so this is what makes
me question the OS. If anyone has PgTcl working on this platform, I'd love
to know about it.

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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Pg & Tcl - is it dying out?

On 01/31/2013 10:59 AM, Carlo Stonebanks wrote:

Was there something constructive you might have been asking about
that

you forgot to include in this email? If so, what was it?

I don't believe I forgot anything, as there was a question in the
original post (which you did not include in your snip):

"Are we seeing the demise of PG & Tcl? Should I advise my client to
NOT upgrade any systems running Tcl apps and stick with legacy OS's?"

Not the demise of PG in general, but specifically of concern for the
PG & Tcl developers.

Is this not a constructive question, and is it NOT about PG in
general? I had asked in 2006 where to direct PG & Tcl questions and
the answer was PGSQL general. See:
/messages/by-id/725602300608011149i2a88a5b2t96817
b85318
1e29c@mail.gmail.com

Is there now somewhere else I should be asking about this?

Well I think part of the problem is that we may be talking apples and
oranges. If I am following correctly there are two PG/Tcl software packages
in play here.

) PL/Tcl

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/interactive/pltcl.html

Working with Tcl in the database.

2) PGtcl

http://flightaware.github.com/Pgtcl/

Working with PG from Tcl

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