Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

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#1Frank Cavaliero
fcavalie@us.ibm.com

Hi,

I have an application that requires to connect to each database available
in PostgreSQL. I have the following questions:

1. Is there a USE DATABASE command or something of the sort (similar to
MySQL) that allows you to quickly connect to a database without having to
reconnect using the username,password and database again ? In Java, we
are using set catalog to do this in MySQL.

2. Based on #1 above, would the latest JDBC driver support the ability to
create this type of connection?

Thanks,
Frank
Database Administrator

#2John R Pierce
pierce@hogranch.com
In reply to: Frank Cavaliero (#1)
Re: Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 2/25/2013 10:22 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

1. Is there a USE DATABASE command or something of the sort (similar
to MySQL) that allows you to quickly connect to a database without
having to reconnect using the username,password and database again ?
In Java, we are using set catalog to do this in MySQL.

no, there isn't. you have to connect to the database. mysql's
databases are in many ways equivalent to postgres' 'schemas' within a
single database (you can move between schemas with SET SEARCH_PATH=...).

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#3Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
In reply to: Frank Cavaliero (#1)
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 02/25/2013 10:22 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

Hi,

I have an application that requires to connect to each database
available in PostgreSQL. I have the following questions:

1. Is there a USE DATABASE command or something of the sort (similar to
MySQL) that allows you to quickly connect to a database without having
to reconnect using the username,password and database again ? In Java,
we are using set catalog to do this in MySQL.

2. Based on #1 above, would the latest JDBC driver support the ability
to create this type of connection?

Not sure if this will do what want?:
http://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/91/datasource.html#ds-intro

Thanks,
Frank

/Database Administrator/

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#4Frank Cavaliero
fcavalie@us.ibm.com
In reply to: Adrian Klaver (#3)
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the response. The situation is more like the following:

Using the JDBC driver, I connect to database TEST1 and immediately,
without having to pass username credentials again, I want to use database
TEST2. In MySQL, you can simply run: use TEST2. Wondering if
PostgreSQL has something similar.

Thanks,
Frank

From:
Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@gmail.com>
To:
Frank Cavaliero/Boston/IBM@IBMUS
Cc:
pgsql-general@postgresql.org, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Date:
02/25/2013 01:48 PM
Subject:
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 02/25/2013 10:22 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

Hi,

I have an application that requires to connect to each database
available in PostgreSQL. I have the following questions:

1. Is there a USE DATABASE command or something of the sort (similar to
MySQL) that allows you to quickly connect to a database without having
to reconnect using the username,password and database again ? In Java,
we are using set catalog to do this in MySQL.

2. Based on #1 above, would the latest JDBC driver support the ability
to create this type of connection?

Not sure if this will do what want?:
http://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/91/datasource.html#ds-intro

Thanks,
Frank

/Database Administrator/

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#5Frank Cavaliero
fcavalie@us.ibm.com
In reply to: John R Pierce (#2)
Re: Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

Hi John,

Thanks for the response. I will look into that as an option.

Thanks,
Frank

From:
John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com>
To:
pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Date:
02/25/2013 01:33 PM
Subject:
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions
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On 2/25/2013 10:22 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:
1. Is there a USE DATABASE command or something of the sort (similar to
MySQL) that allows you to quickly connect to a database without having to
reconnect using the username,password and database again ? In Java, we
are using set catalog to do this in MySQL.

no, there isn't. you have to connect to the database. mysql's
databases are in many ways equivalent to postgres' 'schemas' within a
single database (you can move between schemas with SET SEARCH_PATH=...).

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#6John R Pierce
pierce@hogranch.com
In reply to: Adrian Klaver (#3)
Re: Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 2/25/2013 10:34 AM, Adrian Klaver wrote:

Not sure if this will do what want?:
http://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/91/datasource.html#ds-intro

a connection pool is something completely different. pools are used
when you have many client threads connecting and disconnecting to the
same database, you can use a pool to reduce the actual number of
connections by sharing a pool of ready-made connections.

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#7Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
In reply to: Frank Cavaliero (#4)
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 02/25/2013 10:57 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the response. The situation is more like the following:

Using the JDBC driver, I connect to database TEST1 and immediately,
without having to pass username credentials again, I want to use
database TEST2. In MySQL, you can simply run: use TEST2. Wondering
if PostgreSQL has something similar.

You can do it in the psql client like this, though that will not help
with JDBC:

aklaver@ford:~$ psql -d test -U postgres
psql (9.0.5)
Type "help" for help.

test=# \c production
You are now connected to database "production".
production=#

I do not use the JDBC driver much, but from what I read in the link I
sent you, you can set up a non-pooling DataSource to which you can add
predefined datasources and then switch as needed.

Thanks,
Frank

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#8Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
In reply to: John R Pierce (#6)
Re: Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 02/25/2013 10:59 AM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 2/25/2013 10:34 AM, Adrian Klaver wrote:

Not sure if this will do what want?:
http://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/91/datasource.html#ds-intro

a connection pool is something completely different. pools are used
when you have many client threads connecting and disconnecting to the
same database, you can use a pool to reduce the actual number of
connections by sharing a pool of ready-made connections.

From here:
http://jdbc.postgresql.org/documentation/91/ds-ds.html

Table 11.2. DataSource Implementations

Pooling Implementation Class
No org.postgresql.ds.PGSimpleDataSource
Yes org.postgresql.ds.PGPoolingDataSource

There seems to a no pooling version that allows you to aggregate
datasources.

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#9Kenneth Marshall
ktm@rice.edu
In reply to: Frank Cavaliero (#4)
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the response. The situation is more like the following:

Using the JDBC driver, I connect to database TEST1 and immediately,
without having to pass username credentials again, I want to use database
TEST2. In MySQL, you can simply run: use TEST2. Wondering if
PostgreSQL has something similar.

Thanks,
Frank

Hi Frank,

The "USE xxx;' is a non-standard MySQL extension to the SQL language. This
functionality is not available at the SQL layer and must be supported by
the connection application itself, I think. For example, you can use
"\c xxx" in psql to perform that function. If JDBC does not support it
natively, you would need to open a new connection to the new database.

Regards,
Ken

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#10John R Pierce
pierce@hogranch.com
In reply to: Adrian Klaver (#7)
Re: Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 2/25/2013 11:04 AM, Adrian Klaver wrote:

test=# \c production
You are now connected to database "production".

and the \c metacommand in psql disconnects(closes) the current database
and connects to the new one, using the same credentials as originally
provided, unless you specify otherwise.

not useful to the OP's problem.

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#11Frank Cavaliero
fcavalie@us.ibm.com
In reply to: Adrian Klaver (#7)
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

Hi Adrian,

Thanks a lot! I will certainly look into the multiple datasources as an
option.

-Frank

From:
Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@gmail.com>
To:
Frank Cavaliero/Boston/IBM@IBMUS
Cc:
pgsql-admin@postgresql.org, pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Date:
02/25/2013 02:16 PM
Subject:
Re: [GENERAL] Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 02/25/2013 10:57 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Thanks for the response. The situation is more like the following:

Using the JDBC driver, I connect to database TEST1 and immediately,
without having to pass username credentials again, I want to use
database TEST2. In MySQL, you can simply run: use TEST2. Wondering
if PostgreSQL has something similar.

You can do it in the psql client like this, though that will not help
with JDBC:

aklaver@ford:~$ psql -d test -U postgres
psql (9.0.5)
Type "help" for help.

test=# \c production
You are now connected to database "production".
production=#

I do not use the JDBC driver much, but from what I read in the link I
sent you, you can set up a non-pooling DataSource to which you can add
predefined datasources and then switch as needed.

Thanks,
Frank

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#12Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
In reply to: Frank Cavaliero (#11)
Re: Use, Set Catalog and JDBC questions

On 02/25/2013 11:21 AM, Frank Cavaliero wrote:

Hi Adrian,

Thanks a lot! I will certainly look into the multiple datasources as
an option.

Just remember, as John pointed out, a MySQL database and a Postgres
database are not equivalent. You will not be able to do cross database
operations(with the core tools). If you want that then you will need to
use Postgres schemas instead. There is work going forward on a Postgres
foreign data
wrapper(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/postgres-fdw.html)
that will allow cross database operations, but it is only in the
development code and is very basic at this point. There is also the
dblink module(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/static/dblink.html).

-Frank

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