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#1Nedal Slman
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 hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and sell it .
 
Best Wishes
Nedal Slman

#2Giuseppe Broccolo
giuseppe.broccolo@2ndquadrant.it
In reply to: Nedal Slman (#1)
Re: [GENERAL]

Hi,

PostgreSQL is released under the "PostgreSQL License", a liberal Open
Source license, similar to the BSD one:

http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

So you can include PostgreSQL in your commercial applications
and sell them. But you must explicitly specify that your application is
based on
PostgreSQL RDBMS.

Hope it helps,

Giuseppe.

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2014-02-11 10:35 GMT+01:00 Nedal Slman <nedalslman@ymail.com>:

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hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in
commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and
sell it .

Best Wishes
Nedal Slman

#3Laurenz Albe
laurenz.albe@cybertec.at
In reply to: Nedal Slman (#1)
Re: [GENERAL]

Nedal Slman wrote:

i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and sell it .

No, but see for yourself:
http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

Yours,
Laurenz Albe

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In reply to: Nedal Slman (#1)
Re: [GENERAL]

On 11/02/2014 09:35, Nedal Slman wrote:

hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in
commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and
sell it .
**
Best Wishes
Nedal Slman

http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

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#5Jayadevan M
maymala.jayadevan@gmail.com
In reply to: Nedal Slman (#1)
Re: [GENERAL]

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Nedal Slman <nedalslman@ymail.com> wrote:

hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in
commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and
sell it .

Best Wishes
Nedal Slman

I assume your question is about licensing issues. Please see
http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/. It is pretty clear - you can do
pretty much anything.

#6Vincent Veyron
vv.lists@wanadoo.fr
In reply to: Nedal Slman (#1)
Re: [GENERAL] licence

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:35:58 -0800 (PST)
Nedal Slman <nedalslman@ymail.com> wrote:

i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and sell it .
 

http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

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#7Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
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Re: [GENERAL]

On 02/11/2014 01:35 AM, Nedal Slman wrote:

hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in
commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and
sell it .

No problem. Here are the requirements of the license:

http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/FAQ#What_is_the_license_of_PostgreSQL.3F

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Nedal Slman

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#8Steven Schlansker
steven@likeness.com
In reply to: Nedal Slman (#1)
Re: [GENERAL]

http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written agreement is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies.

On Feb 11, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Nedal Slman <nedalslman@ymail.com> wrote:

hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and sell it .

Best Wishes
Nedal Slman

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#9John R Pierce
pierce@hogranch.com
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On 2/11/2014 1:35 AM, Nedal Slman wrote:

i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in
commercial application
like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and
sell it .

http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

you need to include the specified copyright and two paragraph disclaimer
in your copyright notices, if you're distributing any derivative of
PostgreSQL, otherwise, there are no strings attached.

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#10Perry, Hemy
hemy_perry@mentor.com
In reply to: Steven Schlansker (#8)
Re: [GENERAL]

Yet there is ONE file (src\backend\parser\gram.h) that goes into the server directory (postgresql\include\server\parser\gram.h) which has a Bison exception in its license that might affect everything that is delivered with this file.

The exception says:
Bison Exception:
"As a special exception, you may create a larger work that contains part or all of the Bison parser skeleton and distribute that work under terms of your choice, so long as that work isn't itself a parser generator using the skeleton or a modified version thereof as a parser skeleton. Alternatively, if you modify or redistribute the parser skeleton itself, you may (at your option) remove this special exception, which will cause the skeleton and the resulting Bison output files to be licensed under the GNU General Public License without this special exception."

So my understanding is that I must take this file out from the deliverable. Isn't that correct?
Thanks
Hemy

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http://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written agreement is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies.

On Feb 11, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Nedal Slman <nedalslman@ymail.com> wrote:

hi
i want to ask if there is any problem or fees to using Postgesql in
commercial application like develop not open source application using Postgresql database and sell it .

Best Wishes
Nedal Slman

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#11Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Perry, Hemy (#10)
Re: [GENERAL]

"Perry, Hemy" <hemy_perry@mentor.com> writes:

Yet there is ONE file (src\backend\parser\gram.h) that goes into the server directory (postgresql\include\server\parser\gram.h) which has a Bison exception in its license that might affect everything that is delivered with this file.
The exception says:
Bison Exception:
"As a special exception, you may create a larger work that contains part or all of the Bison parser skeleton and distribute that work under terms of your choice, so long as that work isn't itself a parser generator using the skeleton or a modified version thereof as a parser skeleton. Alternatively, if you modify or redistribute the parser skeleton itself, you may (at your option) remove this special exception, which will cause the skeleton and the resulting Bison output files to be licensed under the GNU General Public License without this special exception."

So my understanding is that I must take this file out from the deliverable. Isn't that correct?

No, it isn't.

If you were to generate Postgres' grammar with a custom-modified Bison,
then this wording might require you to honor GPL as well as BSD terms
of distribution for the result. Nobody does that though. Per the
above statement, we can distribute the files generated by stock versions
of Bison under terms of our choice, to wit the Postgres license.

Were this not the case, we wouldn't be using Bison.

regards, tom lane

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