Code of Conduct

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#1Bret Stern
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Maybe Trump should write this

#2Joshua D. Drake
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In reply to: Bret Stern (#1)
Re: Code of Conduct

On 01/11/2016 10:16 AM, Bret Stern wrote:

Maybe Trump should write this

Unfortunately Trump would likely not follow the CoC.

Thank you for the troll.

JD

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#3Geoff Winkless
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In reply to: Joshua D. Drake (#2)
Re: Code of Conduct

Gosh, I've got a lot of love for CoCs; I've heard great things, really
good things, some things, about CoCs, that some of them have been
really helping in a yuge way with some fantastic projects. Sometimes
some people, a lot of people, have said that I could write a CoC, and
you know, I think they're right, because my CoC is pretty damn strong,
because I believe my CoC could Make Postgres Great Again.

On 11 January 2016 at 18:32, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:

On 01/11/2016 10:16 AM, Bret Stern wrote:

Maybe Trump should write this

Unfortunately Trump would likely not follow the CoC.

Thank you for the troll.

JD

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#4Regina Obe
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In reply to: Geoff Winkless (#3)
Re: Code of Conduct

Geoff,

Gosh, I've got a lot of love for CoCs; I've heard great things, really good things, some things, about CoCs, that some of them have been really helping in a yuge way with some fantastic projects.
Sometimes some people, a lot of people, have said that I could write a CoC, and you know, I think they're right, because my CoC is pretty damn strong, because I believe my CoC could Make Postgres Great Again.

While this is funny to some, I don't think it adds value to this conversation. I would consider it a derailment and not very helpful.

If I had a Coc to point at, I would point at the section I feel you are violating.

Thanks,
Regina

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#5Geoff Winkless
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In reply to: Regina Obe (#4)
Re: Code of Conduct

On 11 January 2016 at 20:13, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

While this is funny to some, I don't think it adds value to this conversation. I would consider it a derailment and not very helpful.

If I had a Coc to point at, I would point at the section I feel you are violating.

If there were a CoC that would explicitly disallow occasional
lighthearted humour to a non-development list that is intended to
offend no-one then I would most definitely remove myself from such a
project. Some may consider that a positive thing, but I would like to
think that in the main I have at least tried to help in the small ways
that I could.

Your post, on the other hand, is clearly intended to censure a fellow
contributor to the list, which I find far more offensive. I guess
that's the problem with CoCs, because to some people what's reasonable
behaviour is utterly unacceptable to others.

For what it's worth, I would consider my post to be no less on topic
for postgres-general than the original topic. Even notwithstanding
that I think it would be a complete waste of time and resources I
don't consider this the correct place to hold such a conversation:
there is a -docs list, after all. But since I'm able to simply ignore
and delete those posts that don't interest me, I didn't really see any
point in saying anything.

Geoff

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#6Regina Obe
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In reply to: Geoff Winkless (#5)
Re: Code of Conduct

Geoff,

If there were a CoC that would explicitly disallow occasional lighthearted humour to a non-development list that is intended to offend no-one then I would most definitely remove myself from such a project.

Some may consider that a positive thing, but I would like to think that in the main I have at least tried to help in the small ways that I could.

Your post, on the other hand, is clearly intended to censure a fellow contributor to the list, which I find far more offensive. I guess that's the problem with CoCs, because to some people what's reasonable behaviour is utterly unacceptable to others.

For what it's worth, I would consider my post to be no less on topic for postgres-general than the original topic. Even notwithstanding that I think it would be a complete waste of time and resources I don't consider this the correct place to hold such a conversation:
there is a -docs list, after all. But since I'm able to simply ignore and delete those posts that don't interest me, I didn't really see any point in saying anything.

Geoff

The Coc allows light-hearted humor, I'm so disappointed you didn't get my clever punning in my last email. I thought it was a treasure.

Now while what you said is fine for this list, it's questionable it adds value to this discussion.

On further observation, I realize it can be used as a testcase to test the strength of this Coc. So I stand corrected this is quite relevant and useful to this discussion. In fact, I think we should package all these and use them in regression tests for this Coc.

Thanks,
Regina

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#7Geoff Winkless
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In reply to: Regina Obe (#6)
Re: Code of Conduct

On 11 January 2016 at 21:11, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

The Coc allows light-hearted humor, I'm so disappointed you didn't get my clever punning in my last email. I thought it was a treasure.

Hah! The irony is I had deliberately avoided making the obvious gag
because I've been called out previously for using misogynistic
language on the lists.

Apologies for missing your point :)

Geoff

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#8John R Pierce
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In reply to: Regina Obe (#6)
Re: Code of Conduct

On 1/11/2016 1:11 PM, Regina Obe wrote:

On further observation, I realize it can be used as a testcase to test the strength of this Coc. So I stand corrected this is quite relevant and useful to this discussion. In fact, I think we should package all these and use them in regression tests for this Coc.

gee, we better get a lawyer to make sure all the language in the CoC is
ironclad and comprehensive.

/me runs screaming into the distance.

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#9Adrian Klaver
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In reply to: John R Pierce (#8)
Re: Code of Conduct

On 01/11/2016 01:20 PM, John R Pierce wrote:

On 1/11/2016 1:11 PM, Regina Obe wrote:

On further observation, I realize it can be used as a testcase to test
the strength of this Coc. So I stand corrected this is quite relevant
and useful to this discussion. In fact, I think we should package all
these and use them in regression tests for this Coc.

gee, we better get a lawyer to make sure all the language in the CoC is
ironclad and comprehensive.

The sad part is that this is a solved issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

/me runs screaming into the distance.

I'm right behind you.

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#10Buford Tannen
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In reply to: Regina Obe (#4)
Re: Code of Conduct

Regina Obe wrote:

If I had a Coc to point at, I would point at the section I feel you are violating.

+1 funny!

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#11Berend Tober
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In reply to: Geoff Winkless (#5)
Re: Code of Conduct

Geoff Winkless wrote:

On 11 January 2016 at 20:13, Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us> wrote:

While this is funny to some, I don't think it adds value to this conversation. I would consider it a derailment and not very helpful.

If I had a Coc to point at, I would point at the section I feel you are violating.

If there were a CoC that would explicitly disallow occasional
lighthearted humour... I would most definitely remove myself

Your post, on the other hand, is clearly intended to censure a fellow
contributor ...

I think you missed the sarcasm. I thought your comment was great when I
read it, and the I though her retort was even better!!

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