PostgreSQL general discussions list - 2010 Thread: Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error?
Hello People of PostgreSQL,
Unfortunately only nowadays (March 2017), and only by chance I spotted this
2010 discussion during a Google search.
Name of discussion:
Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error?
id of message:
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I found strange the doubt Mr. Glyn Astill expressed that Amiga platform
entry in Wikipedia about availability of PostgreSQL could be an error, as
he was just unaware that platform had a porting of PostgreSQL even if
unofficial...
Also I found strange the fact Mr. Tom Lane immediately deleted Amiga
reference entry on Wikipedia in article regarding RDBMS without performing
any serious search on Google, lasting more than a couple of minutes of true
serious search, or maybe asking directly into Amiga Forums about PostgreSQL
to Amiga Communituy of Users.
Infacts there is a port of PostgreSQL made in the late 2005 (five years
before your discussion started) present in online Amiga Repository AMINET
and it was available for the Amiga clone Operating System called MorphOS
http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/postgresql632-mos-bin
In 2010 it has been sure completely outdated but sure you can see proof it
exists, and that Amiga had full dignity of being present into Wikipedia
Article.
A simple Google search could had helped you and sure it had solved your
doubts, or maybe just paying a visit on Amiga Forums that are well
represented online and asking directly to members of Amiga Community that
are well known for their friendly welcome attitude (I can assure you two
that we don't bite people from other platforms) sure had saved Mr. Tom Lane
from his presupponential deletion of Amiga Entry in RDBMS in Wikipedia.
I get this occasion to inform you gentlemen that there are also various
packages regarding SQLite into Amiga repositories, if you search for it.
Last available package is from 2016, so it is not outdated this time. and
If you are active also in SQLite Community now you have full info about
Amiga portings.
http://aminet.net/search?query=SQLite
Hope from now on future, you will not delete anymore -abruptly- Amiga
entries before informing yourself about Amiga portings availability when
encoutering this platform name by chance on Wikipedia or other sites.
With respect,
Raffaele irlanda
On 03/13/2017 02:13 AM, Raffaele Irlanda wrote:
Hello People of PostgreSQL,
Unfortunately only nowadays (March 2017), and only by chance I spotted
this 2010 discussion during a Google search.Name of discussion:
Wikipedia entry - AmigaOS port - error?
id of message:
/messages/by-id/839805.58072.qm@web23603.mail.ird.yahoo.com
I found strange the doubt Mr. Glyn Astill expressed that Amiga platform
entry in Wikipedia about availability of PostgreSQL could be an error,
as he was just unaware that platform had a porting of PostgreSQL even if
unofficial...Also I found strange the fact Mr. Tom Lane immediately deleted Amiga
reference entry on Wikipedia in article regarding RDBMS without
performing any serious search on Google, lasting more than a couple of
minutes of true serious search, or maybe asking directly into Amiga
Forums about PostgreSQL to Amiga Communituy of Users.Infacts there is a port of PostgreSQL made in the late 2005 (five years
before your discussion started) present in online Amiga Repository
AMINET and it was available for the Amiga clone Operating System called
MorphOS
http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/postgresql632-mos-bin
In 2010 it has been sure completely outdated but sure you can see proof
it exists, and that Amiga had full dignity of being present into
Wikipedia Article.
I am pretty sure it is:
PostgreSQL Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (MorphOS)[24]
A simple Google search could had helped you and sure it had solved your
doubts, or maybe just paying a visit on Amiga Forums that are well
represented online and asking directly to members of Amiga Community
that are well known for their friendly welcome attitude (I can assure
you two that we don't bite people from other platforms) sure had saved
Mr. Tom Lane from his presupponential deletion of Amiga Entry in RDBMS
in Wikipedia.I get this occasion to inform you gentlemen that there are also various
packages regarding SQLite into Amiga repositories, if you search for it.
Last available package is from 2016, so it is not outdated this time.
and If you are active also in SQLite Community now you have full info
about Amiga portings.http://aminet.net/search?query=SQLite
Hope from now on future, you will not delete anymore -abruptly- Amiga
entries before informing yourself about Amiga portings availability when
encoutering this platform name by chance on Wikipedia or other sites.With respect,
Raffaele irlanda
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On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Adrian Klaver
<adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
On 03/13/2017 02:13 AM, Raffaele Irlanda wrote:
http://aminet.net/package/dev/gg/postgresql632-mos-bin
In 2010 it has been sure completely outdated but sure you can see proof
it exists, and that Amiga had full dignity of being present into
Wikipedia Article.I am pretty sure it is:
PostgreSQL Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (MorphOS)[24]
Oh man, 2005's versuin 6.3.2. It's more of a historical oddity than a
version I'd ever wanna run. Isn't there some way to get gnuc etc
running on an amiga and then work on direct support of the platform if
that's what you want? I'd think paying a well known amiga hacker to
port it would be a worthwhile investment.
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Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> writes:
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Adrian Klaver
<adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:I am pretty sure it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems#Operating_system_support
PostgreSQL Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (MorphOS)[24]
Oh man, 2005's versuin 6.3.2. It's more of a historical oddity than a
version I'd ever wanna run.
More to the point, whatever "MorphOS" is, it isn't AmigaOS. It was pretty
clearly stated in the original thread that AmigaOS had no support for
fork(), without which there was no chance of running Postgres. It's not
unreasonable of us to take the position that AmigaOS isn't a supported
platform, because *it is not*, and never has been.
(And, for the record, I didn't edit that wikipedia entry. I don't even
have a wikipedia account.)
regards, tom lane
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On 3/13/2017 10:06 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote:
I am pretty sure it is:
PostgreSQL Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (MorphOS)[24]
Oh man, 2005's versuin 6.3.2. It's more of a historical oddity than a
version I'd ever wanna run. Isn't there some way to get gnuc etc
running on an amiga and then work on direct support of the platform if
that's what you want? I'd think paying a well known amiga hacker to
port it would be a worthwhile investment.
indeed, a 12 year old one-time port to an obscure platform which is at
best a historical oddity does no one any favors. if its not supported
and reasonably current, it might as well not exist.
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On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 11:15 PM, John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> wrote:
On 3/13/2017 10:06 PM, Scott Marlowe wrote:
I am pretty sure it is:
PostgreSQL Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (MorphOS)[24]
Oh man, 2005's versuin 6.3.2. It's more of a historical oddity than a
Correction 1998's.
version I'd ever wanna run. Isn't there some way to get gnuc etc
running on an amiga and then work on direct support of the platform if
that's what you want? I'd think paying a well known amiga hacker to
port it would be a worthwhile investment.indeed, a 12 year old one-time port to an obscure platform which is at best
a historical oddity does no one any favors. if its not supported and
reasonably current, it might as well not exist.--
john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz
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More to the point, whatever "MorphOS" is, it isn't AmigaOS. It was pretty
clearly stated in the original thread that AmigaOS had no support for
fork(), without which there was no chance of running Postgres.
Just curious, if PG is completely dependent on fork(), how was it ported to Windows
which also does not support fork directly.
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On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Rakesh Kumar
<rakeshkumar464@outlook.com> wrote:
More to the point, whatever "MorphOS" is, it isn't AmigaOS. It was pretty
clearly stated in the original thread that AmigaOS had no support for
fork(), without which there was no chance of running Postgres.Just curious, if PG is completely dependent on fork(), how was it ported to Windows
which also does not support fork directly.
There is a special treatment here with EXEC_BACKEND, so you can get PG
to work even if fork() is not in the area.
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