Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

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#1Tasos
mortisgr@gmx.com

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<div>Since&nbsp;Oct 2018 - Greek stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is in inclued in the Snowball project.</div>

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<div>I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres&nbsp;</div>

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<div class="signature">Best Regards,</div>

<div class="signature">Bard</div></div></body></html>

#2Achilleas Mantzios
achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com
In reply to: Tasos (#1)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

On 7/6/19 11:31 π.μ., Tasos wrote:

Hi to all,
Since Oct 2018 - Greek stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is in inclued in the Snowball project.

Για σου Τασσο, μπορείς να εξηγήσεις τι εστί Snowball?

I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres
Best Regards,
Bard

--
Achilleas Mantzios
IT DEV Lead
IT DEPT
Dynacom Tankers Mgmt

#3Tasos
mortisgr@gmx.com
In reply to: Achilleas Mantzios (#2)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

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<div>&quot;<strong>Snowball</strong>&nbsp;is a small string processing language designed for creating stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval.&quot;</div>

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<div>Hi to all,</div>

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<div>Since&nbsp;Oct 2018 - Greek stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is in inclued in the Snowball project.</div>

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<div>I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres&nbsp;</div>

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<div class="signature">Best Regards,</div>

<div class="signature">Bard</div>
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#4Achilleas Mantzios
achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com
In reply to: Tasos (#3)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

On 7/6/19 11:48 π.μ., Tasos wrote:

Καλησπέρα Αχιλλέα και ευχαριστώ για την απάντηση, το snowball -> https://snowballstem.org/ με τα δικά του λόγια
"*Snowball* is a small string processing language designed for creating stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval."
Ερώτηση, νόμιζα είναι παγκόσμια λίστα μιλάμε αγγλικά ή ελληνικά;;;

oopps I just thought the greek list got resurrected, sorry, anyways thanks.

Tasos
*Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2019 at 11:44 AM
*From:* "Achilleas Mantzios" <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
*To:* pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org
*Subject:* Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta
On 7/6/19 11:31 π.μ., Tasos wrote:

Hi to all,
Since Oct 2018 - Greek stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is in inclued in the Snowball project.

Για σου Τασσο, μπορείς να εξηγήσεις τι εστί Snowball?

I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres
Best Regards,
Bard

--
Achilleas Mantzios
IT DEV Lead
IT DEPT
Dynacom Tankers Mgmt

--
Achilleas Mantzios
IT DEV Lead
IT DEPT
Dynacom Tankers Mgmt

#5Kostis Michail
kostismichail@gmail.com
In reply to: Tasos (#3)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

Greek stemming algorithm is already available at the snowballstem site.
(Oct 2018)

Lets hope the integration happens before the next release.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:49 AM Tasos <mortisgr@gmx.com> wrote:

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Καλησπέρα Αχιλλέα και ευχαριστώ για την απάντηση, το snowball ->
https://snowballstem.org/ με τα δικά του λόγια

"*Snowball* is a small string processing language designed for creating
stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval."

Ερώτηση, νόμιζα είναι παγκόσμια λίστα μιλάμε αγγλικά ή ελληνικά;;;

Tasos

*Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2019 at 11:44 AM
*From:* "Achilleas Mantzios" <achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com>
*To:* pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org
*Subject:* Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12
beta
On 7/6/19 11:31 π.μ., Tasos wrote:

Hi to all,

Since Oct 2018 - Greek stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is
in inclued in the Snowball project.

Για σου Τασσο, μπορείς να εξηγήσεις τι εστί Snowball?

I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres

Best Regards,
Bard

--
Achilleas Mantzios
IT DEV Lead
IT DEPT
Dynacom Tankers Mgmt

#6Adrien Nayrat
adrien.nayrat@anayrat.info
In reply to: Tasos (#1)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

On 6/7/19 10:31 AM, Tasos wrote:

Hi to all,
 
Since Oct 2018 - Greek/messages/by-id/E1g4YQa-0003tf-Gr@gemulon.postgresql.org stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is in
inclued in the Snowball project.
 
I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres 
 
Best Regards,
Bard

Hi,

Postgres' stemmer has been synced with Snowball upstream, but it was before October:

/messages/by-id/E1g4YQa-0003tf-Gr@gemulon.postgresql.org

As mentionned, this will add arabic, indonesian, irish, lithuanian,
nepali, and tamil.

We are now in 12 beta 1 and far after feature freeze, so I am afraid your
request to add greek could only be considered for v13. Sorry.

Regards,

--
Adrien

#7Tasos
mortisgr@gmx.com
In reply to: Adrien Nayrat (#6)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

😢 is there a solution to that?
Is it possible that we add it ourselves ???

Has anyone worked with this extension -> https://github.com/postgrespro/snowball_ext

Tassos

7 Ιουν 2019, 1:12 μμ, ο χρήστης «Adrien Nayrat <adrien.nayrat@anayrat.info>» έγραψε:

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On 6/7/19 10:31 AM, Tasos wrote:
Hi to all,

Since Oct 2018 - Greek/messages/by-id/E1g4YQa-0003tf-Gr@gemulon.postgresql.org stemming algorithm contributed by Oleg Smirnov is in
inclued in the Snowball project.

I believe it can be included in the Release 12 of postgres

Best Regards,
Bard

Hi,

Postgres' stemmer has been synced with Snowball upstream, but it was before October:

/messages/by-id/E1g4YQa-0003tf-Gr@gemulon.postgresql.org

As mentionned, this will add arabic, indonesian, irish, lithuanian,
nepali, and tamil.

We are now in 12 beta 1 and far after feature freeze, so I am afraid your
request to add greek could only be considered for v13. Sorry.

Regards,

--
Adrien

#8Adrien Nayrat
adrien.nayrat@anayrat.info
In reply to: Tasos (#7)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

On 6/7/19 12:19 PM, Tasks wrote:

😢 is there a solution to that? 
Is it possible that we add it ourselves ???

Has anyone worked with this extension -> https://github.com/postgrespro/snowball_ext

Tassos

I did not played with this extension, maybe you can add greek to
https://github.com/postgrespro/snowball_ext/tree/master/libstemmer

You should ask to the authors of this extension ;)
https://github.com/postgrespro/snowball_ext#authors

--
Adrien

#9Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Adrien Nayrat (#6)
Re: Snowball Stemming Greek support not included in Release 12 beta

Adrien Nayrat <adrien.nayrat@anayrat.info> writes:

Postgres' stemmer has been synced with Snowball upstream, but it was before October:
/messages/by-id/E1g4YQa-0003tf-Gr@gemulon.postgresql.org

We are now in 12 beta 1 and far after feature freeze, so I am afraid your
request to add greek could only be considered for v13. Sorry.

Yeah, it's too late to consider this for v12.

Also, while I don't think anybody would object to absorbing the upstream
Greek support, there's nonzero work that has to be done to make it happen.
There's nobody here who's particularly tracking what the Snowball project
does, so someone who actually cares about some new feature would need to
prepare and submit a resynchronizing patch. The above commit and the
referenced discussion threads should give a good example of what has
to be done. (Hopefully, a resync patch right now would be a good deal
smaller than that one, though ;-))

regards, tom lane