PG Admin 4

On 7/10/20 9:53 AM, rwest wrote:

I'm relatively new to PostgreSql and am trying to navigate my way around the
tools like PG Admin 4 to do Database Admin work.

I'm trying to run an entire set of DDL with lots of tables, indexes, etc.
through PG Admin 4 for a database. The only thing I saw after I ran the
script was a message about the final index being created and how long the
entire script ran in milliseconds. When running a large batch of objects, I
would expect to see messages about the result of each individual object
being created (like what happens in SSMS for SQL Server, or any of the tools
for Oracle). Is there some setting or switch somewhere in PG Admin 4 that I
can turn on to see messages for each object that it processes while it is
executing my script? It doesn't give me a warm a fuzzy feeling to not see
anything while the script it running.

Thanks - RW

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What environment are you in, OS-wise? A shell of some sort to run those
scripts is likely your best bet.

Ah, sorry that i didn't specify.

I'm running on a Windows platform.

We're trying to avoid running in a command-line mode if possible, and
leverage the options PG Admin 4 has available to us. Just find it odd that
it doesn't report out each Create or Alter statement as it executes the
script.

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Oh sorry, should have specified that.

We're running on a Windows platform.

We're trying to avoid running anything command-line when doing DDL releases
and leverage whatever PG Admin 4 can provide us. I'm just wondering why we
don't see the results of each CREATE or ALTER statement as the script runs
in the tool. That seems very strange to me. Is there some sort of setting
or parameter that can force the tool to do this for us?

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On 7/10/20 8:53 AM, rwest wrote:

I'm relatively new to PostgreSql and am trying to navigate my way around the
tools like PG Admin 4 to do Database Admin work.

I'm trying to run an entire set of DDL with lots of tables, indexes, etc.
through PG Admin 4 for a database. The only thing I saw after I ran the
script was a message about the final index being created and how long the
entire script ran in milliseconds. When running a large batch of objects, I
would expect to see messages about the result of each individual object
being created (like what happens in SSMS for SQL Server, or any of the tools
for Oracle). Is there some setting or switch somewhere in PG Admin 4 that I
can turn on to see messages for each object that it processes while it is
executing my script? It doesn't give me a warm a fuzzy feeling to not see
anything while the script it running.

Have you looked in the Query History tab?:

https://www.pgadmin.org/docs/pgadmin4/4.23/query_tool.html#query-history-panel

Thanks - RW

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Yes...all that is in there is the same results for the entire batch......no intermediate results for each piece of DDL.

I'm submitting a large series of DDL changes in one batch....I'm still looking how to see the results of the execution of each DDL statement.

RW

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On 7/10/20 8:53 AM, rwest wrote:

I'm relatively new to PostgreSql and am trying to navigate my way
around the tools like PG Admin 4 to do Database Admin work.

I'm trying to run an entire set of DDL with lots of tables, indexes, etc.
through PG Admin 4 for a database. The only thing I saw after I ran
the script was a message about the final index being created and how
long the entire script ran in milliseconds. When running a large
batch of objects, I would expect to see messages about the result of
each individual object being created (like what happens in SSMS for
SQL Server, or any of the tools for Oracle). Is there some setting or
switch somewhere in PG Admin 4 that I can turn on to see messages for
each object that it processes while it is executing my script? It
doesn't give me a warm a fuzzy feeling to not see anything while the script it running.

Have you looked in the Query History tab?:

https://www.pgadmin.org/docs/pgadmin4/4.23/query_tool.html#query-history-panel

Thanks - RW

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Why would you shun the ease of command line batch control?

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On 10/07/2020 17:36, rwest wrote:

Oh sorry, should have specified that.

We're running on a Windows platform.

We're trying to avoid running anything command-line when doing DDL releases
and leverage whatever PG Admin 4 can provide us. I'm just wondering why we
don't see the results of each CREATE or ALTER statement as the script runs
in the tool. That seems very strange to me. Is there some sort of setting
or parameter that can force the tool to do this for us?

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On 7/10/20 12:54 PM, Robert West wrote:

Yes...all that is in there is the same results for the entire batch......no intermediate results for each piece of DDL.

Hmm, that is something you might have to ask here:

https://www.pgadmin.org/support/list/

I'm submitting a large series of DDL changes in one batch....I'm

still looking how to see the results of the execution of each DDL statement.

On Unixen I would say tail the log file, not sure how that works in
Windows.

RW

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I gave up on PGAdmin4 and went back to PGAdmin3, although 3 is
deprecated now. The History tab will show you what you want after
executing a SQL statement.

I don't use Windows any more than I have to but when I did try PGAdmin4
on windows, the feedback was sometimes there and sometimes not. Linux
works better.

That said, I agree that executing a script from a command line is the
best approach for implementing DDL statements. You can capture the
script and the output for further confirmation of success or failure.

Sue

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On 2020-07-10 15:20, Tim Clarke wrote:

Why would you shun the ease of command line batch control?
Tim Clarke MBCS
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On 10/07/2020 17:36, rwest wrote:

Oh sorry, should have specified that.

We're running on a Windows platform.

We're trying to avoid running anything command-line when doing DDL releases
and leverage whatever PG Admin 4 can provide us. I'm just wondering why we
don't see the results of each CREATE or ALTER statement as the script runs
in the tool. That seems very strange to me. Is there some sort of setting
or parameter that can force the tool to do this for us?

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I did the same for at least a year, but I must admit that v4 has improved
greatly since its initial release. Also it turns out is handy for running
in a docker-compose environment so no matter who is starting up on your
team, they always have a database and a database admin tool at the ready
along with the app.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 1:31 PM Susan Hurst <susan.hurst@brookhurstdata.com>
wrote: