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#1tom.beacon
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What is the best contact with whom to discuss possible violations of the pgsql license?

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#2Bruce Momjian
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In reply to: tom.beacon (#1)
Re: possible license violations

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 09:31:15PM +0000, tom.beacon wrote:

What is the best contact with whom to discuss possible violations of the pgsql
license?

Uh, good question, and I could not find the answer easily. I would
report it to the owners of the Postgres trademark:

https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/trademarks/
board@lists.postgres.ca

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#3Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#2)
Re: possible license violations

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 09:31:15PM +0000, tom.beacon wrote:

What is the best contact with whom to discuss possible violations of the pgsql
license?

Uh, good question, and I could not find the answer easily. I would
report it to the owners of the Postgres trademark:

https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/trademarks/
board@lists.postgres.ca

A point worth making here is that the Postgres *license* is so lax
that it's basically impossible to violate, unless maybe by redistributing
the code sans COPYRIGHT file. And even if somebody were doing that,
I doubt how much we'd care.

We do care more about the Postgres *trademarks*, which is why Bruce
is pointing you to the organization that owns those. But a trademark
violation is an entirely different animal from a copyright violation.

regards, tom lane

#4Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Tom Lane (#3)
Re: possible license violations

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 06:08:42PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 09:31:15PM +0000, tom.beacon wrote:

What is the best contact with whom to discuss possible violations of the pgsql
license?

Uh, good question, and I could not find the answer easily. I would
report it to the owners of the Postgres trademark:

https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/trademarks/
board@lists.postgres.ca

A point worth making here is that the Postgres *license* is so lax
that it's basically impossible to violate, unless maybe by redistributing
the code sans COPYRIGHT file. And even if somebody were doing that,
I doubt how much we'd care.

I have received private reports of our COPYRIGHT not being properly
included in distributions so I am sensitive to those possible
violations, and I assume the trademark holders would deal with those as
well.

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Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
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#5Stephen Frost
sfrost@snowman.net
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#4)
Re: possible license violations

Greetings,

* Bruce Momjian (bruce@momjian.us) wrote:

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 06:08:42PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 09:31:15PM +0000, tom.beacon wrote:

What is the best contact with whom to discuss possible violations of the pgsql
license?

Uh, good question, and I could not find the answer easily. I would
report it to the owners of the Postgres trademark:

https://www.postgresql.org/about/policies/trademarks/
board@lists.postgres.ca

A point worth making here is that the Postgres *license* is so lax
that it's basically impossible to violate, unless maybe by redistributing
the code sans COPYRIGHT file. And even if somebody were doing that,
I doubt how much we'd care.

I have received private reports of our COPYRIGHT not being properly
included in distributions so I am sensitive to those possible
violations, and I assume the trademark holders would deal with those as
well.

One of the downsides of attributing the copyrights to an organization
which doesn't exist (PGDG) is that, I would think anyway, it'd make it
rather hard to actually enforce anything regarding copyright.. I'm not
a lawyer though.

Thanks,

Stephen