Release notes for upgrading

Started by Christopher Kings-Lynneover 21 years ago6 messages
#1Christopher Kings-Lynne
chriskl@familyhealth.com.au

Can we put in a recommendation in the release notes that people use 8.0
pg_dump to do their dump? I think that will make everyone's upgrades go
much more smoothly, and we will get many fewer complaints.

I don't think many users realise they can use the next version's pg_dump
to upgrade. I think it should be put in every release notes!

Chris

#2Robert Treat
xzilla@users.sourceforge.net
In reply to: Christopher Kings-Lynne (#1)
Re: Release notes for upgrading

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:57, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

Can we put in a recommendation in the release notes that people use 8.0
pg_dump to do their dump? I think that will make everyone's upgrades go
much more smoothly, and we will get many fewer complaints.

I don't think many users realise they can use the next version's pg_dump
to upgrade. I think it should be put in every release notes!

Assuming we're not ready to recommend Slony for upgrades, I would second this
idea based on my experience of several cases where I *had* to dump a database
using the newer pg_dump to get it to upgrade reliably. In fact I just came
across a 7.3 database that no longer works with standard -Fc backups since
the schema cannot be reloaded...

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#3Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Robert Treat (#2)
Re: Release notes for upgrading

Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:57, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

I don't think many users realise they can use the next version's pg_dump
to upgrade. I think it should be put in every release notes!

Assuming we're not ready to recommend Slony for upgrades, I would second this
idea based on my experience of several cases where I *had* to dump a database
using the newer pg_dump to get it to upgrade reliably.

This has been standard lore for awhile. Where should we document it
exactly?

regards, tom lane

#4Robert Treat
xzilla@users.sourceforge.net
In reply to: Tom Lane (#3)
Re: Release notes for upgrading

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 01:11, Tom Lane wrote:

Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:57, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

I don't think many users realise they can use the next version's pg_dump
to upgrade. I think it should be put in every release notes!

Assuming we're not ready to recommend Slony for upgrades, I would second this
idea based on my experience of several cases where I *had* to dump a database
using the newer pg_dump to get it to upgrade reliably.

This has been standard lore for awhile. Where should we document it
exactly?

Actually it seems it is already mentioned in
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/install-upgrading.html and
somewhat inferred in
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/migration.html

I'll take a swing at making the language a little stronger. We could
also add it as a mailing list hint. Chris, you have any other ideas
where you would like to see it?

Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

#5Christopher Kings-Lynne
chriskl@familyhealth.com.au
In reply to: Robert Treat (#4)
Re: Release notes for upgrading

I'll take a swing at making the language a little stronger. We could
also add it as a mailing list hint. Chris, you have any other ideas
where you would like to see it?

Literally in the release notes - that's all that anyone reads of a new
release :) Wherever it says 'upgrading to 8.0 requires a full dump and
reload'.

Chris

#6Marc G. Fournier
scrappy@postgresql.org
In reply to: Robert Treat (#4)
Re: Release notes for upgrading

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Robert Treat wrote:

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 01:11, Tom Lane wrote:

Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> writes:

On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:57, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:

I don't think many users realise they can use the next version's pg_dump
to upgrade. I think it should be put in every release notes!

Assuming we're not ready to recommend Slony for upgrades, I would second this
idea based on my experience of several cases where I *had* to dump a database
using the newer pg_dump to get it to upgrade reliably.

This has been standard lore for awhile. Where should we document it
exactly?

Actually it seems it is already mentioned in
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/install-upgrading.html and
somewhat inferred in
http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/migration.html

I'll take a swing at making the language a little stronger. We could
also add it as a mailing list hint. Chris, you have any other ideas
where you would like to see it?

Exact text you'd like to have added?

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