Stored procedures or raw queries
Hi,
I'm pretty new to PostgreSQL and am building a simple website with it.
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.
On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.
What is considered the best approach? My backend is written in Go if
that makes a difference.
If you need any additional information then please let me know.
Simon.
Generally you should use stored procedures when it will reduce the number
of round trips to the database. Wrapping simple SELECT statements in a
stored proc just adds friction for updating the application especially as
the number of developers grows.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025, 8:04 AM Simon Connah <simon@connah.dev> wrote:
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Hi,
I'm pretty new to PostgreSQL and am building a simple website with it.
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.What is considered the best approach? My backend is written in Go if
that makes a difference.If you need any additional information then please let me know.
Simon.
Hi
st 6. 8. 2025 v 14:04 odesílatel Simon Connah <simon@connah.dev> napsal:
Hi,
I'm pretty new to PostgreSQL and am building a simple website with it.
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.What is considered the best approach? My backend is written in Go if
that makes a difference.
The query executed from the stored procedure is executed with almost the
same speed as the query executed from the application.
There can be a small benefit from cached plans, but you can cache plans too
from application.
The sense of stored procedures is in possibility
a) an reduce a necessity to transfer data from server to client, the
network communication can be reduced
b) with security definer function you can implement some very strong
security solution
c) with stored procedures you can implement your own rules related to data
integrity and security. Stored procedures are executed on the server. There
is no way this can be bypassed.
Just for performance of queries there is not any benefit for stored
procedures
Regards
Pavel
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If you need any additional information then please let me know.
Simon.
On Aug 6, 2025, at 8:03 AM, Simon Connah <simon@connah.dev> wrote:
Hi,
I'm pretty new to PostgreSQL and am building a simple website with it.
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.What is considered the best approach? My backend is written in Go if
that makes a difference.If you need any additional information then please let me know.
If your only concern is performance, then using stored procedures might be overoptimizing. It’s true that they cut down on overhead, but that overhead might be meaningless in terms of overall performance. For instance, if you have low latency between your web server and database server, and your typical query takes 5-6 seconds to execute, then most of your users’ wait time is due to execution time, not to communication between servers. Stored procedures won’t help you much.
If you’re building a simple web site, I suggest starting with what seems simplest for you (which sounds like raw SQL from your description) and then addressing performance problems as they arise. Stored procedures are one tool in the performance toolbox.
good luck
Philip
Thank you all for your help. It is much appreciated. I'll have a play
around and see how things work out.
Simon.
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 at 14:17, Philip Semanchuk
<philip@americanefficient.com> wrote:
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On Aug 6, 2025, at 8:03 AM, Simon Connah <simon@connah.dev> wrote:
Hi,
I'm pretty new to PostgreSQL and am building a simple website with it.
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.What is considered the best approach? My backend is written in Go if
that makes a difference.If you need any additional information then please let me know.
If your only concern is performance, then using stored procedures might be overoptimizing. It’s true that they cut down on overhead, but that overhead might be meaningless in terms of overall performance. For instance, if you have low latency between your web server and database server, and your typical query takes 5-6 seconds to execute, then most of your users’ wait time is due to execution time, not to communication between servers. Stored procedures won’t help you much.
If you’re building a simple web site, I suggest starting with what seems simplest for you (which sounds like raw SQL from your description) and then addressing performance problems as they arise. Stored procedures are one tool in the performance toolbox.
good luck
Philip
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 2:04 PM Simon Connah <simon@connah.dev> wrote:
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.
That depends. Our backend is configured on the fly using code and the
test's fixture, since our schemas are dynamically generated from
higher-level logical constructs. Even if you use .sql files, you can
run those yourself at test time. Creating/dropping a DB is fast, it's
just a folder after all. In this manner, client-side vs server-side
stored-proc for your code matters much less, as both are "dynamic" any
time you run. And FWIW, we started having tons of SQL in the
client-code, and are migrating to server-side for some of it, but for
privilege escalation via SECURITY DEFINER reasons (because it's a
2-tier system), which doesn't sound like it applies to your use case.
Sprinkling RAISE NOTICE (or similar) in the server-side code helps
with debugging it, when it grows more complex, be sure to install a
notice-handler to get them client-side. But if you want to keep things
simple, sure, keep the SQL client-side. Another use-case for
server-side is to cut down on round-trips, which matters to us, since
2-tier, and the client-side can be "far" away from the server, but in
a web-app scenario, that's unlikely, so again, doesn't apply to you
I'm guessing. FWIW. --DD
In my experience, starting with store procedures in a project might seem
overwhelming. Still, as time passes, and your deliverables output grows, it
becomes easier to maintain and improve your products.
It is just a different paradigm that allows you to focus on improving your
code everywhere. Remember, the database is often neglected until you start
facing problems.
Use indexes and partitions from the beginning. Archiving and replication
might sound unnecessary at the moment; however, dealing with their
implications in production is just a pain.
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025, 7:43 AM Dominique Devienne <ddevienne@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 2:04 PM Simon Connah <simon@connah.dev> wrote:
My main question is whether I should use stored procedures / functions
or whether I should embed raw SQL queries in my backend? I understand
that procedures are faster as it cuts down on the round trip speed and
the database can optimise it better.On the other hand raw SQL is much easier to manage as you just change
the query in your bankend code without having to apply changes to the
database at deployment time of your backend.That depends. Our backend is configured on the fly using code and the
test's fixture, since our schemas are dynamically generated from
higher-level logical constructs. Even if you use .sql files, you can
run those yourself at test time. Creating/dropping a DB is fast, it's
just a folder after all. In this manner, client-side vs server-side
stored-proc for your code matters much less, as both are "dynamic" any
time you run. And FWIW, we started having tons of SQL in the
client-code, and are migrating to server-side for some of it, but for
privilege escalation via SECURITY DEFINER reasons (because it's a
2-tier system), which doesn't sound like it applies to your use case.
Sprinkling RAISE NOTICE (or similar) in the server-side code helps
with debugging it, when it grows more complex, be sure to install a
notice-handler to get them client-side. But if you want to keep things
simple, sure, keep the SQL client-side. Another use-case for
server-side is to cut down on round-trips, which matters to us, since
2-tier, and the client-side can be "far" away from the server, but in
a web-app scenario, that's unlikely, so again, doesn't apply to you
I'm guessing. FWIW. --DD