LISTAGG à la Oracle in PostgreSQL
Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;
I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:
SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
I failed and IA also failed. Claude says:
It is not possible to exactly replicate listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP
(ORDER BY ename) as a custom PostgreSQL aggregate
because PostgreSQL strictly forbids ungrouped columns as direct
arguments to ordered-set aggregates.
Do you agree ?
On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 1:21 PM Pierre Forstmann
<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
I don't think you need a custom aggregate here. In Postgres you can say:
select deptno,
string_agg(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
--
Paul ~{:-)
pj@illuminatedcomputing.com
Pierre
The equivalent in PostgreSQL is through:
SELECT deptno,
STRING_AGG(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employeesFROM empGROUP
BY deptnoORDER BY deptno;
Atte
JRBM
El lun, 9 mar 2026 a las 15:21, Pierre Forstmann (<
pierre.forstmann@gmail.com>) escribió:
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Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I failed and IA also failed. Claude says:
It is not possible to exactly replicate listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP
(ORDER BY ename) as a custom PostgreSQL aggregate
because PostgreSQL strictly forbids ungrouped columns as direct
arguments to ordered-set aggregates.Do you agree ?
I agree but I just would like to know if there is way to be compatible
with Oracle syntax using aggregate features in PostgreSQL
Thanks.
Le 09/03/2026 à 23:05, Paul A Jungwirth a écrit :
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 1:21 PM Pierre Forstmann
<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com> wrote:Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I don't think you need a custom aggregate here. In Postgres you can say:
select deptno,
string_agg(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
To do something similar, you would have to fork the source code and
implement the declarations with the same syntax, resulting in something
like Postracle.
Atte
JRBM
El mar, 10 mar 2026 a las 13:53, Pierre Forstmann (<
pierre.forstmann@gmail.com>) escribió:
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I agree but I just would like to know if there is way to be compatible
with Oracle syntax using aggregate features in PostgreSQLThanks.
Le 09/03/2026 à 23:05, Paul A Jungwirth a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 1:21 PM Pierre Forstmann
<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com> wrote:Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I don't think you need a custom aggregate here. In Postgres you can say:
select deptno,
string_agg(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 at 15:57, Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos Mella <
rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com> wrote:
To do something similar, you would have to fork the source code and
implement the declarations with the same syntax, resulting in something
like Postracle.
Is this the sort of thing IvorySQL could help with?
Hi
út 10. 3. 2026 v 20:58 odesílatel Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos Mella <
rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com> napsal:
To do something similar, you would have to fork the source code and
implement the declarations with the same syntax, resulting in something
like Postracle.
orafce has listagg function https://github.com/orafce/orafce
Regards
Pavel
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JRBMEl mar, 10 mar 2026 a las 13:53, Pierre Forstmann (<
pierre.forstmann@gmail.com>) escribió:I agree but I just would like to know if there is way to be compatible
with Oracle syntax using aggregate features in PostgreSQLThanks.
Le 09/03/2026 à 23:05, Paul A Jungwirth a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 1:21 PM Pierre Forstmann
<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com> wrote:Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I don't think you need a custom aggregate here. In Postgres you can say:
select deptno,
string_agg(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
út 10. 3. 2026 v 21:23 odesílatel Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
napsal:
Hi
út 10. 3. 2026 v 20:58 odesílatel Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos Mella <
rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com> napsal:To do something similar, you would have to fork the source code and
implement the declarations with the same syntax, resulting in something
like Postracle.orafce has listagg function https://github.com/orafce/orafce
but it doesn't support syntax WITHING GROUP syntax. Probably there is not a
possibility to implement it in extension without introducing a new kind of
aggregate functions in core, or enhancing behaviour of ordered-set kind of
aggregates.
Regards
Pavel
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Regards
Pavel
Atte
JRBMEl mar, 10 mar 2026 a las 13:53, Pierre Forstmann (<
pierre.forstmann@gmail.com>) escribió:I agree but I just would like to know if there is way to be compatible
with Oracle syntax using aggregate features in PostgreSQLThanks.
Le 09/03/2026 à 23:05, Paul A Jungwirth a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 1:21 PM Pierre Forstmann
<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com> wrote:Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG
that
would work like in Oracle:
SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) ASemployees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I don't think you need a custom aggregate here. In Postgres you can
say:
select deptno,
string_agg(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;
On 09.03.26 21:21, Pierre Forstmann wrote:
Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;I would like to know if is possible to create an aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I failed and IA also failed. Claude says:
It is not possible to exactly replicate listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP
(ORDER BY ename) as a custom PostgreSQL aggregate
because PostgreSQL strictly forbids ungrouped columns as direct
arguments to ordered-set aggregates.Do you agree ?
One of the reasons that PostgreSQL hasn't implemented LISTAGG is that it
is a misdesign. It uses ordered-set aggregate syntax even
though it is not very similar to the other ordered-set aggregates.
Its syntax should be more similar to ARRAY_AGG or
JSON_ARRAYAGG, for example. But it's too late to fix the standard on this.
Actually I'm trying to do for IvorySQL.
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On 10/03/2026 21:15, Isaac Morland <isaac.morland@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 at 15:57, Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos Mella
<rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com <mailto:rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com>> wrote:To do something similar, you would have to fork the source code and
implement the declarations with the same syntax, resulting in
something like Postracle.Is this the sort of thing IvorySQL could help with?
Thanks.
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On 10/03/2026 22:46, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote:
út 10. 3. 2026 v 21:23 odesílatel Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com
<mailto:pavel.stehule@gmail.com>> napsal:Hi
út 10. 3. 2026 v 20:58 odesílatel Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos
Mella <rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com
<mailto:rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com>> napsal:To do something similar, you would have to fork the source code
and implement the declarations with the same syntax, resulting
in something like Postracle.orafce has listagg function https://github.com/orafce/orafce
<https://github.com/orafce/orafce>but it doesn't support syntax WITHING GROUP syntax. Probably there is
not a possibility to implement it in extension without introducing a new
kind of aggregate functions in core, or enhancing behaviour of ordered-
set kind of aggregates.Regards
Pavel
Regards
Pavel
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JRBMEl mar, 10 mar 2026 a las 13:53, Pierre Forstmann
(<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com
<mailto:pierre.forstmann@gmail.com>>) escribió:I agree but I just would like to know if there is way to be
compatible
with Oracle syntax using aggregate features in PostgreSQLThanks.
Le 09/03/2026 à 23:05, Paul A Jungwirth a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 1:21 PM Pierre Forstmann
<pierre.forstmann@gmail.com<mailto:pierre.forstmann@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I can write a LISTAGG aggregate for:
create table emp(deptno numeric, ename text);
SELECT deptno, LISTAGG(ename, ','::text ORDER BY ename)
AS employees
FROM emp GROUP BY deptno ORDER BY deptno;
I would like to know if is possible to create an
aggregate LISTAGG that
would work like in Oracle:
SELECT deptno,
listagg(ename, ',') WITHIN GROUP (ORDER BYename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;I don't think you need a custom aggregate here. In
Postgres you can say:
select deptno,
string_agg(ename, ',' ORDER BY ename) AS employees
FROM emp
GROUP BY deptno
ORDER BY deptno;