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#1Aayra Singh
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Hi Team,
I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

We were informed through them that the product support is included in license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product support" versus "integration support"?

User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They are not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET applications with PostgreSQL.

Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise

Thanks, and Regards
Aayra Singh
Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services
HCLTech
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#2Bruce Momjian
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In reply to: Aayra Singh (#1)
Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

On Mon, Mar 23, 2026 at 10:16:05AM +0000, Aayra Singh wrote:

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Hi Team,

I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.
We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.
We were informed through them that the product support is included in license
cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.
Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product support"
versus "integration support"?
User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They are
not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET applications
with PostgreSQL.
Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise

We are an open source project and do not sell anything, including
support. The software is free to use:

https://www.postgresql.org/about/licence/

Hence, I have no idea how to answer any of your questions.

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#3Adrian Klaver
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In reply to: Aayra Singh (#1)
Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

On 3/23/26 3:16 AM, Aayra Singh wrote:

Classification: *Confidential*

Hi Team,

I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

We were informed through them that the product support is included in
license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product
support" versus "integration support"?

Postgresql is opensource, you are free do with what you want. If you
went through a third party vendor to buy support you will need to
contact that vendor to find what that support package covers.

User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They
are not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET
applications with PostgreSQL.

Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard&lt;https://
postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard>

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise&lt;https://
postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise>

Thanks, and Regards

Aayra Singh

Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

*HCLTech*

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#4Aayra Singh
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In reply to: Adrian Klaver (#3)
RE: PostGre SQL/ HCL

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Hi Adrian,

We wish to know the difference between product and integration support. The vendor gave us your contact to answer the technical queries. Kindly assist.

Thanks, and Regards
Aayra Singh 
Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

HCLTech
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Sector-126, Noida-201303, India

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Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com

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On 3/23/26 3:16 AM, Aayra Singh wrote:

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Hi Team,

I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

We were informed through them that the product support is included in
license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product
support" versus "integration support"?

Postgresql is opensource, you are free do with what you want. If you went through a third party vendor to buy support you will need to contact that vendor to find what that support package covers.

User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself.
They are not looking for support for the software used to integrate
.NET applications with PostgreSQL.

Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpost
grespro.com%2Fproducts%2Fpostgrespro%2Fstandard&data=05%7C02%7Caayra.s
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Thanks, and Regards

Aayra Singh

Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

*HCLTech*

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#5Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
In reply to: Aayra Singh (#4)
Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

On 3/23/26 7:16 PM, Aayra Singh wrote:

Classification: Confidential

Hi Adrian,

We wish to know the difference between product and integration support. The vendor gave us your contact to answer the technical queries. Kindly assist.

If you mean me personally then they where sadly mistaken, I don't offer
that support outside of anything I may answer on this list. If they
meant this list, then again there seems to be some misunderstanding.
This list is for the community version of Postgres, for which there is
no charge for it's use or for answers on this list. How the vendor
differentiates between product and integration support is something they
would have to answer and is not something this list can help you with.

Thanks, and Regards
Aayra Singh
Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

HCLTech
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#6Christophe Pettus
xof@thebuild.com
In reply to: Aayra Singh (#1)
Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

On Mar 23, 2026, at 03:16, Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com> wrote:
I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.
We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.
We were informed through them that the product support is included in license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

This question reoccurs on these lists, as many large companies are still unfamiliar with open source software and how it is licensed and supported.

The database system under the name PostgreSQL does not belong to any one company, and no company sells it as such. Compnaies may sell variations of it ("forks"), or may sell packaged versions of it, but anyone can download and run PostgreSQL for free without having to pay any license fee.

The vendor through whom you purchased PostgreSQL may be simply distributing the software with the addition of paid support services. The open-source PostgreSQL license allows that.

It's hard to answer the question about what the difference is between "product" and "integration" support, because PostgreSQL as such does not come with either one. Speculatively, what your vendor might mean is that handling of bugs and advice on the operation of PostgreSQL is included in their support contract, but advice and support on how to integrate PostgreSQL in your application is not included. (Note that no organization except the PostgreSQL Global Development Group cna promise changes to PostgreSQL, so if your vendor is guaranteeing bug fixes in the community version, or the addition of features, they are misinformed as to how the development process works.)

However, you'll need to get that infromation directly from your vendor. The community (which is what you have reached on this mailing list) provides assistance on PostgreSQL, but the community is not a corporation and can only supply assistance as individual members of it have time and expertise to do so.

If you would like "integration" support, you can contact a consultancy that professional services organization PostgreSQL. The community maintains a list of professional services organizations here:

https://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/

Ultimately, though, the questions on what is and is not included in your support contract is a question for the vendor that sold you the contract. There is no bright line between "product" and "integration" support, and they would be the best people to contact to find out what the distinction is in your case.

#7Jan Karremans
karremans.ja@gmail.com
In reply to: Aayra Singh (#4)
Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

Hi Aayra,

As the PostgreSQL community as such does not really offer either form of service, this is indeed a question for your vendor.

I am not really sure what sort of answer you are expecting.

Kind regards,
Jan

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On 24 Mar 2026, at 03:16, Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com> wrote:

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Hi Adrian,

We wish to know the difference between product and integration support. The vendor gave us your contact to answer the technical queries. Kindly assist.

Thanks, and Regards
Aayra Singh
Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

HCLTech
Supercharging ProgressT
hcltech.com <http://hcltech.com/&gt;
5th Floor, Tower-3
Sector-126, Noida-201303, India

Mob: +91 8146946337
Email: aayra.singh@hcltech.com <mailto:aayra.singh@hcltech.com>

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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2026 1:54 AM
To: Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com <mailto:aayra.singh@hcltech.com>>; pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org <mailto:pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org>
Cc: SAM <sam@hcl-software.com <mailto:sam@hcl-software.com>>; Annes Joseph <Annes.Joseph@hcltech.com <mailto:Annes.Joseph@hcltech.com>>
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On 3/23/26 3:16 AM, Aayra Singh wrote:

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Hi Team,

I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

We were informed through them that the product support is included in
license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product
support" versus "integration support"?

Postgresql is opensource, you are free do with what you want. If you went through a third party vendor to buy support you will need to contact that vendor to find what that support package covers.

User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself.
They are not looking for support for the software used to integrate
.NET applications with PostgreSQL.

Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from below?

https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpost
grespro.com <http://grespro.com/&gt;%2Fproducts%2Fpostgrespro%2Fstandard&amp;data=05%7C02%7Caayra.s
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Thanks, and Regards

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Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

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#8Juan Rodrigo Alejandro Burgos Mella
rodrigoburgosmella@gmail.com
In reply to: Aayra Singh (#1)
Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

Hi Aayrra

I imagine that product support refers to what they can help you with in
case of database problems and integration support, in case you have to
migrate legacy applications and things like that.

Atte
JRBM

El lun, 23 mar 2026, 17:13, Aayra Singh <aayra.singh@hcltech.com> escribió:

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Hi Team,

I am from the Procurement team at HCLTech.

We have purchased PostGre SQL through one of our vendors.

We were informed through them that the product support is included in
license cost but not integration support that user need to do on his own.

Could you please explain what specifically is covered by "product support"
versus "integration support"?

User requirement is for support for the PostgreSQL database itself. They
are not looking for support for the software used to integrate .NET
applications with PostgreSQL.

Also can you please check if we can also buy one of the licenses from
below?

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/standard

https://postgrespro.com/products/postgrespro/enterprise

Thanks, and Regards

Aayra Singh

Senior Management Trainee - Global Procurement Services

*HCLTech*

Supercharging Progress™

*hcltech.com <http://www.hcltech.com/&gt;*

5th Floor, Tower-3

Sector-126, Noida-201303, India

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#9Bruce Momjian
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Re: PostGre SQL/ HCL

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 02:16:32AM +0000, Aayra Singh wrote:

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^^^^^^^^^^^^

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