Opinions on Usenet ...
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?
The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus from
the lists to usenet ... based on past discussions concerning moving some
stuff out of email to stuff like bug trackers, I don't believe this to be
the case, but am curious what the opinion of other developers happens to
be ... would a USENET group actually be preferrable?
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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?
Heck no. I have no desire to use USENET.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus
from the lists to usenet ... based on past discussions concerning moving
some stuff out of email to stuff like bug trackers, I don't believe this
to be the case, but am curious what the opinion of other developers
happens to be ... would a USENET group actually be preferrable?----
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"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?
No. I abandoned Usenet years ago.
regards, tom lane
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?
No.
Regards
Gaetano Mendola
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:03 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?
Is there a reliable, fast, public news server out there which would
carry it at reasonable speed (my ISP updates their groups nightly --
completely useless).
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Rod Taylor wrote:
On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:03 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?Is there a reliable, fast, public news server out there which would
carry it at reasonable speed (my ISP updates their groups nightly --
completely useless).
news.postgresql.org?
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Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Is there a reliable, fast, public news server out there which would
carry it at reasonable speed (my ISP updates their groups nightly --
completely useless).news.postgresql.org?
Didn't know that existed...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Rod Taylor wrote:
Is there a reliable, fast, public news server out there which would
carry it at reasonable speed (my ISP updates their groups nightly --
completely useless).news.postgresql.org?
Didn't know that existed...
Ack ... its never been 'hidden', but its also never been fully advertised
either ...
I'm tempted to write a 'monthly FAQ' that gets posted that talks about the
usenet gateway, as well as how to do such seemingly simple things like
"how to unsubscribe to the lists" ...
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I was wondering if there is a better solution than mailing lists.
My experience is that mailing lists are somewat combersome to use.
Especially when your postings do not arrive!
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From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:04 PM
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: [HACKERS] Opinions on Usenet ...
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using the
mailing lists?
The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus from
the lists to usenet ... based on past discussions concerning moving some
stuff out of email to stuff like bug trackers, I don't believe this to be
the case, but am curious what the opinion of other developers happens to be
... would a USENET group actually be preferrable?
----
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Didn't know that existed...
Ack ... its never been 'hidden', but its also never been fully
advertised either ...
To be fair, I didn't know it existed until the whole usenet thing popped
up either.
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
I'm tempted to write a 'monthly FAQ' that gets posted that talks about
the usenet gateway, as well as how to do such seemingly simple things
like "how to unsubscribe to the lists" ...----
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Mammoth PostgreSQL Replicator. Integrated Replication for PostgreSQLOn Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Gevik Babakhani wrote:
I was wondering if there is a better solution than mailing lists.
My experience is that mailing lists are somewat combersome to use.
Especially when your postings do not arrive!
When they don't arrive? *raised eyebrow* You having a problem? :(
I don't know about everyone else, but my personal preference for mailing
lists is due to the lack of spam that gets to them, something that you
can't really do easily on Usenet ...
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"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> writes:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using the
mailing lists?The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus from the
lists to usenet ...
They're nuts. The only "exodus" would be in the form of people posting one-off
questions not bothering to subscribe before posting.
It seems to me that the news interface is useful if it's a list you don't read
regularly. You just check periodically to see if there's anything on a
particular topic (like to see how a new release is faring before upgrading) or
to post the occasional support question without wanting to be subscribed all
the time.
On that basis it seems to me the only list that makes sense to gateway to
USENET is pgsql-general. That's the outward-facing list for people to ask
support one-off questions on. The rest of the lists should really be mailing
lists for ongoing internal discussion.
The news.postgresql.org interface should satisfy people who want the
news-style user interface but with the serious-subscribers-only type of
environment.
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greg
Maybe it is me but, I am trying to send a posting regarding a solution
proposal for a TODO item.
My posting has a .tgz attachment but it seems that it never arives at
hackers list!
This is very frustrating. I even ask Bruce for help.
-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:24 PM
To: Gevik Babakhani
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Opinions on Usenet ...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Gevik Babakhani wrote:
I was wondering if there is a better solution than mailing lists.
My experience is that mailing lists are somewat combersome to use.
Especially when your postings do not arrive!
When they don't arrive? *raised eyebrow* You having a problem? :(
I don't know about everyone else, but my personal preference for mailing
lists is due to the lack of spam that gets to them, something that you can't
really do easily on Usenet ...
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gevik@xs4all.nl ("Gevik Babakhani") writes:
Maybe it is me but, I am trying to send a posting regarding a solution
proposal for a TODO item.
My posting has a .tgz attachment but it seems that it never arives at
hackers list!
This is very frustrating. I even ask Bruce for help.
how big is the message? *raised eyebrow* depending on size, it might get
caught up in the queue to be approved ... the only other possibility is that
the anti-virus or anti-spam checkers are picking it up ...
what i'd recommend is putting it up on a URL and posting the URL so that ppl
can download it ...
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-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:24 PM
To: Gevik Babakhani
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Opinions on Usenet ...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Gevik Babakhani wrote:
I was wondering if there is a better solution than mailing lists.
My experience is that mailing lists are somewat combersome to use.
Especially when your postings do not arrive!
When they don't arrive? *raised eyebrow* You having a problem? :(
I don't know about everyone else, but my personal preference for mailing
lists is due to the lack of spam that gets to them, something that you can't
really do easily on Usenet ...
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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus
from the lists to usenet ... based on past discussions concerning moving
some stuff out of email to stuff like bug trackers, I don't believe this
to be the case, but am curious what the opinion of other developers
happens to be ... would a USENET group actually be preferrable?
No, not for me.
Joe
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using the
mailing lists?
No. Using mailing lists is what I prefer since about '95.
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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created
and carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs
using the mailing lists?
No.
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On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 15:03 -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?
No.
-Neil
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus from
the lists to usenet ... based on past discussions concerning moving some
stuff out of email to stuff like bug trackers, I don't believe this to be
the case, but am curious what the opinion of other developers happens to
be ... would a USENET group actually be preferrable?
No.
Gavin
Gavin Sherry wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
If there were a comp.databases.postgresql.hackers newsgroup created and
carried by all the news servers ... would you move to using it vs using
the mailing lists?The USENET community seems to think that there would be a mass exodus from
the lists to usenet ... based on past discussions concerning moving some
stuff out of email to stuff like bug trackers, I don't believe this to be
the case, but am curious what the opinion of other developers happens to
be ... would a USENET group actually be preferrable?No.
Yes ... well, actually ... no. I just wanted to be different. :-)
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