HOT and autovacuum

Started by Alvaro Herreraabout 18 years ago3 messageshackers
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#1Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@2ndquadrant.com

Hi,

I'm seeing a 8.3 database whose autovacuum-initiated vacuums are being
cancelled and I am not sure of the cause. I am wondering if a HOT
cleanup round on a page could try to acquire locks on it that would
conflict with autovacuum (basically anything that conflicts with a
vacuum lock). This would cause autovacuum to commit hara-kiri.

If the table is frequently updated and HOT is invoked often, this could
be very frequent. The auto-cancel feature of autovacuum is IMHO, in
this case, not welcome. Perhaps we could teach autovac to not cancel
itself if the other locker is a HOT page prune?

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#2Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Alvaro Herrera (#1)
Re: HOT and autovacuum

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:

I'm seeing a 8.3 database whose autovacuum-initiated vacuums are being
cancelled and I am not sure of the cause. I am wondering if a HOT
cleanup round on a page could try to acquire locks on it that would
conflict with autovacuum (basically anything that conflicts with a
vacuum lock). This would cause autovacuum to commit hara-kiri.

This is nonsense, no? A buffer cleanup lock is an LWLock not a lock
manager lock.

regards, tom lane

#3Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@2ndquadrant.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)
Re: HOT and autovacuum

Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:

I'm seeing a 8.3 database whose autovacuum-initiated vacuums are being
cancelled and I am not sure of the cause. I am wondering if a HOT
cleanup round on a page could try to acquire locks on it that would
conflict with autovacuum (basically anything that conflicts with a
vacuum lock). This would cause autovacuum to commit hara-kiri.

This is nonsense, no? A buffer cleanup lock is an LWLock not a lock
manager lock.

Yeah, I realized that after awhile. There must be something else they
are doing.

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