pg_filedump binary for CentOS

Started by David Borehamover 15 years ago18 messages
#1David Boreham
david_list@boreham.org

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the
PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it
from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no
binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

Thanks.

#2Vibhor Kumar
vibhor.kumar@enterprisedb.com
In reply to: David Boreham (#1)
Re: pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Sep 27, 2010, at 9:47 AM, David Boreham wrote:

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

Yes, you are right. pg_filedump is not part of PG Source. Its a separate module, which needs to be compile.

Thanks & Regards,
Vibhor Kumar

#3Devrim GÜNDÜZ
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In reply to: David Boreham (#1)
Re: pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 22:17 -0600, David Boreham wrote:

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the
PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it
from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no
binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

Looks like package was lost during transition.

I am rebuilding it, and I'll let you know when I upload it.

Regards,
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#4yj2133011
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In reply to: David Boreham (#1)
Re: pg_filedump binary for CentOS

Looks like package was lost during transition.

I am rebuilding it, and I'll let you know when I upload it.

Regards,

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#5Devrim GÜNDÜZ
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In reply to: David Boreham (#1)
Re: pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 22:17 -0600, David Boreham wrote:

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the
PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it
from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no
binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

They are ready:

http://yum.pgrpms.org/8.3/redhat/rhel-5-x86_64/repoview/pg_filedump.html
http://yum.pgrpms.org/8.3/redhat/rhel-5.0-i386/repoview/pg_filedump.html

-HTH

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#6David Boreham
david_list@boreham.org
In reply to: Devrim GÜNDÜZ (#5)
Re: pg_filedump binary for CentOS
#7Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: David Boreham (#1)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

David Boreham wrote:

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the
PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it
from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no
binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

[ CC to hackers.]

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

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#8Robert Haas
robertmhaas@gmail.com
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#7)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

David Boreham wrote:

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the
PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it
from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no
binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

[  CC to hackers.]

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

If it's license-compatible, +1.

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#9Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@commandprompt.com
In reply to: Robert Haas (#8)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

Excerpts from Robert Haas's message of jue oct 14 14:10:57 -0300 2010:

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:

David Boreham wrote:

As far as I can see there is no pre-built pg_filedump binary for the
PDGD yum repository (8.3.11 for RHEL5). Before I embark on building it
from source I figured I'd ask here if I'm correct that there is no
binary hidden somewhere in the packages.

[  CC to hackers.]

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

If it's license-compatible, +1.

It is GPL, which strictly speaking is compatible, but we don't want to
ship it to avoid problems for downstream packagers.

Could we ask Redhat for a relicense?

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#10Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Bruce Momjian (#7)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

Can't: it's GPL.

regards, tom lane

#11David Fetter
david@fetter.org
In reply to: Tom Lane (#10)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 05:53:30PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

Can't: it's GPL.

Depends on whether we can get it relicensed.

Cheers,
David.
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#12Greg Stark
gsstark@mit.edu
In reply to: Tom Lane (#10)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

Can't: it's GPL.

I don't particularly see a problem with having GPL'd contrib modules.
It would mean any users hoping to redistribute the package couldn't
include those modules except under the GPL. But most repackagers don't
include the contrib modules anyways. Even ones that do and want to
include those modules would only have to include the source to that
module.

I can see not wanting to let that camel's nose in for fear of having
packagers always be uncertain about the status of each contrib module
though.

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#13Robert Haas
robertmhaas@gmail.com
In reply to: Greg Stark (#12)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

Can't: it's GPL.

I don't particularly see a problem with having GPL'd contrib modules.
It would mean any users hoping to redistribute the package couldn't
include those modules except under the GPL. But most repackagers don't
include the contrib modules anyways. Even ones that do and want to
include those modules would only have to include the source to that
module.

I can see not wanting to let that camel's nose in for fear of having
packagers always be uncertain about the status of each contrib module
though.

I think that's a bad idea for all kinds of reasons. For one thing, it
seems that someone could easily end up copying some of that code into
some other place. It would be *nice* to have this available as part
of our regular distribution but I don't want to take any risk of GPL
contamination.

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#14David Boreham
david_list@boreham.org
In reply to: Robert Haas (#13)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On 10/15/2010 7:24 AM, Robert Haas wrote:

I think that's a bad idea for all kinds of reasons. For one thing, it
seems that someone could easily end up copying some of that code into
some other place. It would be *nice* to have this available as part
of our regular distribution but I don't want to take any risk of GPL
contamination.

I think there's a tendency to assume that one license rules them all
within a single package, tarball etc.

Just wondering what was the motivation to GPL this code ?
I mean, if I were to write a utility that was only useful for project X,
I'd want to license my code with the same (or a compatible) license
as X. I'd need a really good reason to use a different license.

#15Andrew Dunstan
andrew@dunslane.net
In reply to: Greg Stark (#12)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

On 10/15/2010 02:36 AM, Greg Stark wrote:

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tom Lane<tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Bruce Momjian<bruce@momjian.us> writes:

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

Can't: it's GPL.

I don't particularly see a problem with having GPL'd contrib modules.
It would mean any users hoping to redistribute the package couldn't
include those modules except under the GPL. But most repackagers don't
include the contrib modules anyways. Even ones that do and want to
include those modules would only have to include the source to that
module.

I can see not wanting to let that camel's nose in for fear of having
packagers always be uncertain about the status of each contrib module
though.

Didn't we go through the exercise of removing modules that were GPLed a
few years ago?

Having a plethora of different licenses covering code in our repository
seems like a recipe for major confusion, and I think is to be avoided.

cheers

andrew

#16Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Robert Haas (#13)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu> wrote:

I don't particularly see a problem with having GPL'd contrib modules.

I think that's a bad idea for all kinds of reasons.

Yeah. From my viewpoint as a downstream packager, it creates a mess.

We've spent a great amount of effort and cajolery over the years to make
sure that the Postgres sources, including contrib, are uniformly
licensed. We're not going to abandon that policy.

I have no idea whether Red Hat could be persuaded to relicense
pg_filedump. It might be worth asking though.

regards, tom lane

#17Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: David Boreham (#14)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

David Boreham <david_list@boreham.org> writes:

Just wondering what was the motivation to GPL this code ?

It was written at Red Hat and they have (or at least had at the time)
a company policy of using GPL for any code written in-house.

regards, tom lane

#18Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Greg Stark (#12)
Re: [GENERAL] pg_filedump binary for CentOS

Greg Stark wrote:

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> writes:

Should we consider moving pg_filedump into our /contrib?

Can't: it's GPL.

I don't particularly see a problem with having GPL'd contrib modules.
It would mean any users hoping to redistribute the package couldn't
include those modules except under the GPL. But most repackagers don't
include the contrib modules anyways. Even ones that do and want to
include those modules would only have to include the source to that
module.

I can see not wanting to let that camel's nose in for fear of having
packagers always be uncertain about the status of each contrib module
though.

I think we should just link to the tool from our docs so there is no
license complexity. Where do we add it?

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