Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Webpage -> PGSQL Advocacy

Started by The Hermit Hackerover 26 years ago2 messages
#1The Hermit Hacker
scrappy@hub.org

Please note that Advocacy is what http://www.pgsql.com is being formed
around...offering Commercial Support is just one aspect of it...

On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Daniel Lundin wrote:

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Hannu Krosing wrote:

I think you should try to produce a high-contrast image, that then
someone with artistic amitions could draw clean.

Though more likely a good clear image could be produced by just
hand-drawing the thing from the definition.

----------------------
Hannu

I posted some time ago a first quick draft of a high contrast, hand drawn,
stylized elephant. It doesn't have the diamond in the image as of writing,
but of course that's easily fixed.

http://test1.umc.se/

The web design used was also a quick draft done real quick. I abandonded
the idea when I saw Dmitry Samersoff's proposal, which I felt was very
well done.

The PostgreSQL logo design and website should be redone and done in a
professional way before the release of 6.5. From my perspective alone, my
clients don't take PostgreSQL seriously when I direct them to the webpages
for reference, and that is highly unwanted.

Regarding this, and the adovacy issue,
I have some thoughts on the subject:

My wish is to set up an postgresql-adovacy group responsible for exposure
issues, publishing comparisons and benchmarks, web design and document
consistency (not the documentation itself but rather making sure it's well
written and consistent to the end user/developer).
Writing papers on the philosophy around the database, the movement and the
use of postgresql in different applications.
Banners, web buttons and merchandise also falls under the responsibility
of postgresql-advocacy.
this is not a trivial part of succesful software, and it _definitely_
shouldn't be ignored (as seems somewhat the case now at times).

As it is now, everyone I've actually _personally_ showed postgresql have
been amazed what it can do (the extensibility chord is a good one), but
not a SINGLE ONE knew anything about its features or sometimes even that
it existed before demonstrated before them.
And these are MySQL/Oracle/Sybase/Informix/FooDBMS users who after all
in varying degree are in the trade.

This is what I'd like to work on changing.

Any comments/thoughts on this?

/Daniel

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#2Bruce Momjian
maillist@candle.pha.pa.us
In reply to: The Hermit Hacker (#1)

The web design used was also a quick draft done real quick. I abandonded
the idea when I saw Dmitry Samersoff's proposal, which I felt was very
well done.

Perhaps we can have the nice graphic elephant for our main page, and a
drawn elephant for small logos if the graphic elephant does not look
good in small sizes.

Regarding this, and the adovacy issue,
I have some thoughts on the subject:

My wish is to set up an postgresql-adovacy group responsible for exposure
issues, publishing comparisons and benchmarks, web design and document
consistency (not the documentation itself but rather making sure it's well
written and consistent to the end user/developer).
Writing papers on the philosophy around the database, the movement and the
use of postgresql in different applications.
Banners, web buttons and merchandise also falls under the responsibility
of postgresql-advocacy.
this is not a trivial part of succesful software, and it _definitely_
shouldn't be ignored (as seems somewhat the case now at times).

Good idea. Yes we certainly need this.

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