Re: easy way of copying regex_t

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#1Arthur Zakirov
a.zakirov@postgrespro.ru

Hi all,

I've been working on moving an extension that allows to move the ispell
dictionaries to shared segment. It's almost complete, the last FIXME is
about copying regex_t structure (stored in AFFIX).

According to regex.h the structure is fairly complex and not exactly easy
to understand, so I'd like to know if anyone here already implemented that
or something that may serve the same purpose. Any ideas?

kind regards
Tomas

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Thank you for your extension shared_ispell. It is very useful. I have
got it from https://github.com/tvondra/shared_ispell
With this message I want to send some patch to your repository with
draft of a code, which allows shared_ispell to copy regex_t.

The main idea of the patch is:
- we doesn't need copy all regex_t structure
- most of fields and structures used only in a compile time
- we need copy structures: guts, colormap, subre, cnfa
- from the subre structure we need only cnfa

colormap represents a directed acyclic graph. cnfa represents a
nondeterministic finite automaton.

In this patch also was done the following:
- added regression tests
- deleted spell.h and spell.c since they have duplicate code
- added shared_ispell.h which declares some structures
- fix an issue when stopFile can be NULL
- fixed countCMPDAffixes since theoretically could be zero affix
- added copyCMPDAffix

Question to hackers. Can such patch be useful as a PostgreSQL patch to
Full-Text search? Is it needed?

shared_ispell loads dictionaries into a shared memory. The main benefits
are:
- saving of memory. Every dictionary is loaded only once. Dictionaries
are not loaded for each backend. In current version of PostgreSQL
dictionaires are loaded for each backend where it was requested.
- saving of time. The first load of a dictionary takes much time. With
this patch dictionaries will be loaded only once.

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Postgres Professional: http://www.postgrespro.com
Russian Postgres Company

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#2Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Arthur Zakirov (#1)

Artur Zakirov <a.zakirov@postgrespro.ru> writes:

With this message I want to send some patch to your repository with
draft of a code, which allows shared_ispell to copy regex_t.

Allowing ispell.c to know that much about regex internals strikes me as
completely unacceptable from a modularity or maintainability standpoint.
If we want to do that, the appropriate thing would be to add a function
to backend/regex/ that copies a regex_t.

However, I'm rather suspicious of the safety of copying a regex_t into
shared memory in the first place. It contains function pointers, which
we have not historically assumed would be portable between different
backend processes. And the regex library is old enough to have never
heard of thread safety, so I'm not really sure that it considers the
regex_t structures to be read-only at execution time.

shared_ispell loads dictionaries into a shared memory. The main benefits
are:
- saving of memory. Every dictionary is loaded only once. Dictionaries
are not loaded for each backend. In current version of PostgreSQL
dictionaires are loaded for each backend where it was requested.
- saving of time. The first load of a dictionary takes much time. With
this patch dictionaries will be loaded only once.

Where does the shared memory space come from? It would not take too
many dictionaries to use up whatever slop is available.

regards, tom lane

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#3Tomas Vondra
tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#2)

On 01/24/2016 10:41 PM, Tom Lane wrote:

Artur Zakirov <a.zakirov@postgrespro.ru> writes:

With this message I want to send some patch to your repository with
draft of a code, which allows shared_ispell to copy regex_t.

Allowing ispell.c to know that much about regex internals strikes me
as completely unacceptable from a modularity or maintainability
standpoint. If we want to do that, the appropriate thing would be to
add a function to backend/regex/ that copies a regex_t.

I share the feeling - that's too much insight into internal regex data
structures, so should be part of backend/regex and not in the extension.

However, I'm rather suspicious of the safety of copying a regex_t into
shared memory in the first place. It contains function pointers, which
we have not historically assumed would be portable between different
backend processes. And the regex library is old enough to have never
heard of thread safety, so I'm not really sure that it considers the
regex_t structures to be read-only at execution time.

Right, it's definitely not thread-safe so there'd need to be some lock
protecting the regex_t copy. I was thinking about either using a group
of locks, each protecting a small subset of the affixes (thus making it
possible to work in parallel to some extent), or simply using a single
lock and each process would make a private copy at the beginning.

In the end, I've decided to do it differently, and simply parse the
affix list from scratch in each process. The affix list is tiny and
takes less than a millisecond to parse in most cases, and I don't have
to care about the regex stuff at all. The main benefit is from sharing
parsed wordlist anyway.

shared_ispell loads dictionaries into a shared memory. The main benefits
are:
- saving of memory. Every dictionary is loaded only once. Dictionaries
are not loaded for each backend. In current version of PostgreSQL
dictionaires are loaded for each backend where it was requested.
- saving of time. The first load of a dictionary takes much time. With
this patch dictionaries will be loaded only once.

Where does the shared memory space come from? It would not take too
many dictionaries to use up whatever slop is available.

It's an old-school shared segment created by the extension at init time.
You're right the size is fixed so it's possible to run out of space by
loading too many dictionaries, but that was not a big deal for the type
of setups it was designed for - in those cases the list of dictionaries
is stable, so it's possible to size the segment accordingly in advance.

But I guess we could do better now that we have dynamic shared memory,
possibly allocating one segment per dictionary as needed, or something
like that.

regards

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#4Arthur Zakirov
a.zakirov@postgrespro.ru
In reply to: Tomas Vondra (#3)

On 25.01.2016 13:07, Tomas Vondra wrote:

Right, it's definitely not thread-safe so there'd need to be some lock
protecting the regex_t copy. I was thinking about either using a group
of locks, each protecting a small subset of the affixes (thus making it
possible to work in parallel to some extent), or simply using a single
lock and each process would make a private copy at the beginning.

In the end, I've decided to do it differently, and simply parse the
affix list from scratch in each process. The affix list is tiny and
takes less than a millisecond to parse in most cases, and I don't have
to care about the regex stuff at all. The main benefit is from sharing
parsed wordlist anyway.

This is nice decision since the affix list is small. For our task I will
change shared_ispell to use this solution.

It's an old-school shared segment created by the extension at init time.
You're right the size is fixed so it's possible to run out of space by
loading too many dictionaries, but that was not a big deal for the type
of setups it was designed for - in those cases the list of dictionaries
is stable, so it's possible to size the segment accordingly in advance.

But I guess we could do better now that we have dynamic shared memory,
possibly allocating one segment per dictionary as needed, or something
like that.

regards

Yes it would be better as we will not need to define the maximum size of
the shared segment in postgresql.conf.

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