list of acknowledgments for PG16

Started by Peter Eisentrautover 2 years ago23 messages
#1Peter Eisentraut
peter@eisentraut.org

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been
committed. It should show up here sometime:
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.
As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate
names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc. (Our
convention is given name followed by surname.)

#2Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 2023-Aug-22, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been committed.
It should show up here sometime: <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.
As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate names
in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc. (Our convention is
given name followed by surname.)

Hmm, I think these docs would only regenerate during the RC1 release, so
it'll be a couple of weeks, unless we manually poke the doc builder.

--
Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
"Here's a general engineering tip: if the non-fun part is too complex for you
to figure out, that might indicate the fun part is too ambitious." (John Naylor)
/messages/by-id/CAFBsxsG4OWHBbSDM=sSeXrQGOtkPiOEOuME4yD7Ce41NtaAD9g@mail.gmail.com

#3Vik Fearing
vik@postgresfriends.org
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 8/22/23 11:33, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc.  (Our convention is given name followed by surname.)

Not necessarily for this time around, but I would like to see this
convention be a bit more inclusive of other cultures. My proposed
solution is to list them the same way we do now, but also have in
parentheses or something their name in their native order and script.
--
Vik Fearing

#4Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org
In reply to: Vik Fearing (#3)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 2023-Aug-22, Vik Fearing wrote:

On 8/22/23 11:33, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate
names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc.  (Our
convention is given name followed by surname.)

Not necessarily for this time around, but I would like to see this
convention be a bit more inclusive of other cultures. My proposed solution
is to list them the same way we do now, but also have in parentheses or
something their name in their native order and script.

Yeah, I've been proposing this kind of thing for many years; the
problem, until not long ago, was that the tooling was unable to process
non-Latin1 characters in all the output formats that we use. But
tooling has changed and the oldest platforms have disappeared, so maybe
it works now; do you want to inject some Chinese, Cyrillic, Japanese
names and give it a spin? At least HTML and PDF need to work correctly.

--
Álvaro Herrera 48°01'N 7°57'E — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
"Pido que me den el Nobel por razones humanitarias" (Nicanor Parra)

#5Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Alvaro Herrera (#4)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

Yeah, I've been proposing this kind of thing for many years; the
problem, until not long ago, was that the tooling was unable to process
non-Latin1 characters in all the output formats that we use. But
tooling has changed and the oldest platforms have disappeared, so maybe
it works now; do you want to inject some Chinese, Cyrillic, Japanese
names and give it a spin? At least HTML and PDF need to work correctly.

I'm pretty sure the PDF toolchain still fails on non-Latin1 characters.
At least it does the way I have it installed; maybe adding some
non-default dependencies would help?

regards, tom lane

#6Vik Fearing
vik@postgresfriends.org
In reply to: Tom Lane (#5)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 8/22/23 15:29, Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

Yeah, I've been proposing this kind of thing for many years; the
problem, until not long ago, was that the tooling was unable to process
non-Latin1 characters in all the output formats that we use. But
tooling has changed and the oldest platforms have disappeared, so maybe
it works now; do you want to inject some Chinese, Cyrillic, Japanese
names and give it a spin? At least HTML and PDF need to work correctly.

I'm pretty sure the PDF toolchain still fails on non-Latin1 characters.
At least it does the way I have it installed; maybe adding some
non-default dependencies would help?

I am struggling to find documentation on how to build the pdfs with
meson. Any pointers?
--
Vik Fearing

#7Tom Lane
tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us
In reply to: Alvaro Herrera (#2)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

On 2023-Aug-22, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been committed.
It should show up here sometime: <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.

Hmm, I think these docs would only regenerate during the RC1 release, so
it'll be a couple of weeks, unless we manually poke the doc builder.

Yeah. I could produce a new set of tarballs from the v16 branch tip,
but I don't know the process (nor have the admin permissions) to
extract the HTML docs and put them on the website.

regards, tom lane

#8Vik Fearing
vik@postgresfriends.org
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 8/22/23 11:33, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been
committed.  It should show up here sometime:
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.  As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc.  (Our convention is given name followed by surname.)

I think these might be the same person:

<member>Zhihong Yu</member>
<member>Zihong Yu</member>

I did not spot any others.
--
Vik Fearing

#9Joe Conway
mail@joeconway.com
In reply to: Tom Lane (#7)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 8/22/23 09:44, Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

On 2023-Aug-22, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been committed.
It should show up here sometime: <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.

Hmm, I think these docs would only regenerate during the RC1 release, so
it'll be a couple of weeks, unless we manually poke the doc builder.

Yeah. I could produce a new set of tarballs from the v16 branch tip,
but I don't know the process (nor have the admin permissions) to
extract the HTML docs and put them on the website.

These days the docs update is part of a scripted process for doing an
entire release.

I'm sure we could figure out how to just release the updated docs, but
with RC1 a week away, is it really worthwhile?

--
Joe Conway
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

#10Peter Eisentraut
peter@eisentraut.org
In reply to: Tom Lane (#5)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 22.08.23 15:29, Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

Yeah, I've been proposing this kind of thing for many years; the
problem, until not long ago, was that the tooling was unable to process
non-Latin1 characters in all the output formats that we use. But
tooling has changed and the oldest platforms have disappeared, so maybe
it works now; do you want to inject some Chinese, Cyrillic, Japanese
names and give it a spin? At least HTML and PDF need to work correctly.

I'm pretty sure the PDF toolchain still fails on non-Latin1 characters.
At least it does the way I have it installed; maybe adding some
non-default dependencies would help?

See here:
/messages/by-id/f58a0973-6e06-65de-8fb8-b3b93518bc6e@2ndquadrant.com

#11Bruce Momjian
bruce@momjian.us
In reply to: Joe Conway (#9)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 10:03:29AM -0400, Joe Conway wrote:

On 8/22/23 09:44, Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

On 2023-Aug-22, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been committed.
It should show up here sometime: <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.

Hmm, I think these docs would only regenerate during the RC1 release, so
it'll be a couple of weeks, unless we manually poke the doc builder.

Yeah. I could produce a new set of tarballs from the v16 branch tip,
but I don't know the process (nor have the admin permissions) to
extract the HTML docs and put them on the website.

These days the docs update is part of a scripted process for doing an entire
release.

I'm sure we could figure out how to just release the updated docs, but with
RC1 a week away, is it really worthwhile?

You can see the list in my automated build:

https://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

--
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com

Only you can decide what is important to you.

#12Denis Laxalde
denis.laxalde@dalibo.com
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
1 attachment(s)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

Peter Eisentraut a écrit :

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been
committed. It should show up here sometime:
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.
As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate
names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc. (Our
convention is given name followed by surname.)

"Gabriele Varrazzo" is mentioned in commit
0032a5456708811ca95bd80a538f4fb72ad0dd20 but it should be "Daniele
Varrazzo" (per Discussion link in commit message); the later is already
in the list.

Attachments:

0001-Remove-a-wrong-name-in-acknowledgments.patchtext/x-patch; charset=UTF-8; name=0001-Remove-a-wrong-name-in-acknowledgments.patchDownload
From c2e685b51f89d80e6e937afaaa0f8d1231fc4d2c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Denis Laxalde <denis.laxalde@dalibo.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 09:10:28 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Remove a wrong name in acknowledgments

---
 doc/src/sgml/release-16.sgml | 1 -
 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/release-16.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/release-16.sgml
index db889127fe..3e8106d22b 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/release-16.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/release-16.sgml
@@ -3968,7 +3968,6 @@ Author: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
     <member>Farias de Oliveira</member>
     <member>Florin Irion</member>
     <member>Franz-Josef Färber</member>
-    <member>Gabriele Varrazzo</member>
     <member>Garen Torikian</member>
     <member>Georgios Kokolatos</member>
     <member>Gilles Darold</member>
-- 
2.39.2

#13Etsuro Fujita
etsuro.fujita@gmail.com
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 6:33 PM Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org> wrote:

As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate
names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc. (Our
convention is given name followed by surname.)

I went through Japanese names on the list. I think they are all in
the right order (ie, the given-name-followed-by-surname order).

Thanks!

Best regards,
Etsuro Fujita

#14jian he
jian.universality@gmail.com
In reply to: Vik Fearing (#6)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 9:41 PM Vik Fearing <vik@postgresfriends.org> wrote:

I am struggling to find documentation on how to build the pdfs with
meson. Any pointers?
--
Vik Fearing

ninja docs:
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Meson#Meson_documentation

ninja alldocs. which take some time, build all kinds of formats, some may fail.

there is another tricky usage:
type "ninja doc" then press Tab for complete twice, you will get all
the available options like following:
docs doc/src/sgml/man3
doc/src/sgml/errcodes-table.sgml doc/src/sgml/man7
doc/src/sgml/features-supported.sgml doc/src/sgml/postgres-A4.fo
doc/src/sgml/features-unsupported.sgml doc/src/sgml/postgres-A4.pdf
doc/src/sgml/html doc/src/sgml/postgres.epub
doc/src/sgml/INSTALL doc/src/sgml/postgres-full.xml
doc/src/sgml/install-html doc/src/sgml/postgres.html
doc/src/sgml/INSTALL.html doc/src/sgml/postgres.txt
doc/src/sgml/install-man doc/src/sgml/postgres-US.fo
doc/src/sgml/INSTALL.xml doc/src/sgml/postgres-US.pdf
doc/src/sgml/keywords-table.sgml doc/src/sgml/wait_event_types.sgml
doc/src/sgml/man1

#15Magnus Hagander
magnus@hagander.net
In reply to: Joe Conway (#9)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 4:03 PM Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com> wrote:

On 8/22/23 09:44, Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

On 2023-Aug-22, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been committed.
It should show up here sometime: <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.

Hmm, I think these docs would only regenerate during the RC1 release, so
it'll be a couple of weeks, unless we manually poke the doc builder.

Yeah. I could produce a new set of tarballs from the v16 branch tip,
but I don't know the process (nor have the admin permissions) to
extract the HTML docs and put them on the website.

These days the docs update is part of a scripted process for doing an
entire release.

I'm sure we could figure out how to just release the updated docs, but
with RC1 a week away, is it really worthwhile?

We've also been pretty strict to say that we don't *want* unreleased
docs on the website for any of our stable branches before, so changing
that would be a distinct policy change as well. And doing such an
exception for just one commit seems like it's set up for problems --
you'd then have to do another one as soon as an adjustment is made.
And in the end, that would mean changing the policy to say that the
"release branches documentation tracks branch tip instead of
releases". Which I generally speaking don't think is a good idea,
because then they don't match what people are running anymore. I think
it only really makes sense for this one part of the docs -- even other
changes to the REL16 docs should be excluded until the next release is
(this time, RC1).

Bottom line is, definite -1 for doing a one-off change that violates
the principle we're on.

Now, if we want a *separate* location where we continuously load
branch tip docs that's a different thing and certainly something we
could consider.

--
Magnus Hagander
Me: https://www.hagander.net/
Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/

#16Daniel Gustafsson
daniel@yesql.se
In reply to: Magnus Hagander (#15)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 25 Aug 2023, at 14:22, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 4:03 PM Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com> wrote:

I'm sure we could figure out how to just release the updated docs, but
with RC1 a week away, is it really worthwhile?

We've also been pretty strict to say that we don't *want* unreleased
docs on the website for any of our stable branches before, so changing
that would be a distinct policy change as well. And doing such an
exception for just one commit seems like it's set up for problems --
you'd then have to do another one as soon as an adjustment is made.
And in the end, that would mean changing the policy to say that the
"release branches documentation tracks branch tip instead of
releases". Which I generally speaking don't think is a good idea,
because then they don't match what people are running anymore. I think
it only really makes sense for this one part of the docs -- even other
changes to the REL16 docs should be excluded until the next release is
(this time, RC1).

Bottom line is, definite -1 for doing a one-off change that violates
the principle we're on.

Based on your reasoning above, I agree.

Now, if we want a *separate* location where we continuously load
branch tip docs that's a different thing and certainly something we
could consider.

That could be useful, seeing changes rendered with the full website style is a
good way to ensure a doc patch didn't break something subtle. As long as keep
them from being indexed by search engines and clearly separated from /docs/ it
should be fine.

--
Daniel Gustafsson

#17Peter Eisentraut
peter@eisentraut.org
In reply to: Vik Fearing (#8)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 22.08.23 15:48, Vik Fearing wrote:

On 8/22/23 11:33, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been
committed.  It should show up here sometime:
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.  As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc.  (Our convention is given name followed by surname.)

I think these might be the same person:

    <member>Zhihong Yu</member>
    <member>Zihong Yu</member>

I did not spot any others.

Fixed.

#18Peter Eisentraut
peter@eisentraut.org
In reply to: Denis Laxalde (#12)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 23.08.23 09:13, Denis Laxalde wrote:

Peter Eisentraut a écrit :

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been
committed.  It should show up here sometime:
<https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;.
   As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate
names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc.  (Our
convention is given name followed by surname.)

"Gabriele Varrazzo" is mentioned in commit
0032a5456708811ca95bd80a538f4fb72ad0dd20 but it should be "Daniele
Varrazzo" (per Discussion link in commit message); the later is already
in the list.

Fixed.

#19Pavel Borisov
pashkin.elfe@gmail.com
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#18)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

I'm not completely sure what should be in this list, but maybe also
tuplesort extensibility [1]? [1]
/messages/by-id/CALT9ZEHjgO_r2cFr35=u9xZa6Ji2e7oVfSEBRBj0Gc+tJjTxSg@mail.gmail.com

#20Vik Fearing
vik@postgresfriends.org
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#10)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 8/22/23 16:24, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

On 22.08.23 15:29, Tom Lane wrote:

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:

Yeah, I've been proposing this kind of thing for many years; the
problem, until not long ago, was that the tooling was unable to process
non-Latin1 characters in all the output formats that we use.  But
tooling has changed and the oldest platforms have disappeared, so maybe
it works now; do you want to inject some Chinese, Cyrillic, Japanese
names and give it a spin?  At least HTML and PDF need to work correctly.

I'm pretty sure the PDF toolchain still fails on non-Latin1 characters.
At least it does the way I have it installed; maybe adding some
non-default dependencies would help?

See here:
/messages/by-id/f58a0973-6e06-65de-8fb8-b3b93518bc6e@2ndquadrant.com

I applied that patch, and it works for Cyrillic text, but not for
Japanese. I am trying to figure out how to make it use a secondary
font, but that might take me a while.
--
Vik Fearing

#21Alvaro Herrera
alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#17)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 2023-Aug-27, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

On 22.08.23 15:48, Vik Fearing wrote:

I think these might be the same person:

    <member>Zhihong Yu</member>
    <member>Zihong Yu</member>

I did not spot any others.

Fixed.

Hm, I noticed we also list Ted Yu, but that's the same person as Zhihong Yu.

--
Álvaro Herrera 48°01'N 7°57'E — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/

#22Peter Eisentraut
peter@eisentraut.org
In reply to: Alvaro Herrera (#21)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

On 16.10.23 15:46, Alvaro Herrera wrote:

On 2023-Aug-27, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

On 22.08.23 15:48, Vik Fearing wrote:

I think these might be the same person:

    <member>Zhihong Yu</member>
    <member>Zihong Yu</member>

I did not spot any others.

Fixed.

Hm, I noticed we also list Ted Yu, but that's the same person as Zhihong Yu.

fixed

#23Zhang Mingli
zmlpostgres@gmail.com
In reply to: Peter Eisentraut (#1)
Re: list of acknowledgments for PG16

Hi,

On Aug 22, 2023, at 17:33, Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org> wrote:

The list of acknowledgments for the PG16 release notes has been committed. It should show up here sometime: <https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/release-16.html#RELEASE-16-ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS&gt;. As usual, please check for problems such as wrong sorting, duplicate names in different variants, or names in the wrong order etc. (Our convention is given name followed by surname.)

Could you help me with Mingli Zhang -> Zhang Mingli

Thanks.

Zhang Mingli
HashData https://www.hashdata.xyz