BUG #1552 followup

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#1Dan Armbrust
daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com
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I've been trying to track down some performance problems that I am
having doing large inserts on tables with foreign keys.

I'm 99% sure that the issue I am having is BUG 1552 -
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php

When I read the whole thread, I got the impression that a fix (or maybe
a hack) had been put into the 8.0 branch. I'm running 8.0.3, and I'm
seeing the issue. I can go into more details if desired...

So my questions are:
1) Would that fix have made it into the 8.0.3 release - alternatively,
how can I figure that out myself?
2) Is there a bug tracker somewhere, or do you just track bugs on the
mailing list? I haven't been able to find anything on your site.

Thanks,

Dan

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Daniel Armbrust
Biomedical Informatics
Mayo Clinic Rochester
daniel.armbrust(at)mayo.edu
http://informatics.mayo.edu/

#2Jaime Casanova
jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec
In reply to: Dan Armbrust (#1)
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Re: [BUGS] BUG #1552 followup

On 8/2/05, Dan Armbrust <daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been trying to track down some performance problems that I am
having doing large inserts on tables with foreign keys.

I'm 99% sure that the issue I am having is BUG 1552 -
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php

When I read the whole thread, I got the impression that a fix (or maybe
a hack) had been put into the 8.0 branch. I'm running 8.0.3, and I'm
seeing the issue. I can go into more details if desired...

So my questions are:
1) Would that fix have made it into the 8.0.3 release - alternatively,
how can I figure that out myself?
2) Is there a bug tracker somewhere, or do you just track bugs on the
mailing list? I haven't been able to find anything on your site.

Thanks,

Dan

What part of the discussion gives you that impression... I understood
that Tom will (in the future) see a fix when Neil finish the framework
to replan prepared statements (or is rebuild cached plans where the
table size has grow significantly?)

PD: This is not the list for this discussion... i am forwarding you to
another(randomly choosen) list.

--
Atentamente,
Jaime Casanova
(DBA: DataBase Aniquilator ;)

#3Dan Armbrust
daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com
In reply to: Jaime Casanova (#2)
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Re: [BUGS] BUG #1552 followup

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<pre wrap="">On 8/2/05, Dan Armbrust <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com">&lt;daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I've been trying to track down some performance problems that I am
having doing large inserts on tables with foreign keys.

I'm 99% sure that the issue I am having is BUG 1552 -
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php&quot;&gt;http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php&lt;/a&gt;

When I read the whole thread, I got the impression that a fix (or maybe
a hack) had been put into the 8.0 branch. I'm running 8.0.3, and I'm
seeing the issue. I can go into more details if desired...

So my questions are:
1) Would that fix have made it into the 8.0.3 release - alternatively,
how can I figure that out myself?
2) Is there a bug tracker somewhere, or do you just track bugs on the
mailing list? I haven't been able to find anything on your site.

Thanks,

Dan

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What part of the discussion gives you that impression... I understood
that Tom will (in the future) see a fix when Neil finish the framework
to replan prepared statements (or is rebuild cached plans where the
table size has grow significantly?)

PD: This is not the list for this discussion... i am forwarding you to
another(randomly choosen) list.

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<tt>This posting seems to indicate that there was a change made:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php&quot;&gt;http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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What is the proper way to discuss bugs?&nbsp; The only thing I have found on
the website is the link for reporting new bugs, (which just sends an
e-mail to the bugs mailing list?)<br>
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Since I didn't see any bug tracker software, I figured (wrongly) that
you must just discuss bugs on the bugs list...<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
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Daniel Armbrust
Biomedical Informatics
Mayo Clinic Rochester
daniel.armbrust(at)mayo.edu
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#4Jaime Casanova
jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec
In reply to: Dan Armbrust (#3)
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Re: [BUGS] BUG #1552 followup

On 8/2/05, Dan Armbrust <daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com> wrote:

Jaime Casanova wrote:
On 8/2/05, Dan Armbrust <daniel.armbrust.list@gmail.com>
wrote:

I've been trying to track down some performance problems that I am

having

doing large inserts on tables with foreign keys.

I'm 99% sure that the

issue I am having is BUG 1552
-

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php

When

I read the whole thread, I got the impression that a fix (or maybe

a hack)

had been put into the 8.0 branch. I'm running 8.0.3, and I'm

seeing the

issue. I can go into more details if desired...

So my questions are:
1)

Would that fix have made it into the 8.0.3 release - alternatively,

how can

I figure that out myself?

2) Is there a bug tracker somewhere, or do you

just track bugs on the

mailing list? I haven't been able to find anything on

your site.

Thanks,

Dan

What part of the discussion gives you that impression... I understood

that

Tom will (in the future) see a fix when Neil finish the framework

to replan

prepared statements (or is rebuild cached plans where the

table size has

grow significantly?)

PD: This is not the list for this discussion... i am

forwarding you to

another(randomly choosen) list.

This posting seems to indicate that there was a change made:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00183.php

After re-read all thread i found that Tom states this as a real
solution to the problem:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00208.php

and try this as a band-aid... the fact that he was looking for
_better_ suggestions let me think he was not sure this will fix it:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-bugs/2005-03/msg00259.php

It's there since 8.0.2 release:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/release-8-0-2.html
--> Planner adjustments to improve behavior on freshly-created tables (Tom)

What is the proper way to discuss bugs? The only thing I have found on the
website is the link for reporting new bugs, (which just sends an e-mail to
the bugs mailing list?)

Since I didn't see any bug tracker software, I figured (wrongly) that you
must just discuss bugs on the bugs list...

you are right bugs discussion occurs in bugs lists. Maybe a misread
your message but because the thread is stating that the real solution
is other (i wasn't aware of the change) i thing other list maybe
performance like Josh suggest to the original bug posting. Now i think
you were right in bugs, because there was an attempt to baind-aid it.

in IMHO, bugs makes the server crash or gives you wrong data... this
seems to me at least (not an expert i have to admit) like a
performance problem that can be found workarounds in pgsql-performance
until a real solution can be implemented.

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regards,
Jaime Casanova
(DBA: DataBase Aniquilator ;)