mailing list messages

Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

A subscription option to turn 'em off seems sufficient, though.
We don't need to automate the choice for people.

regards, tom lane

Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

I hear you.

A subscription option to turn 'em off seems sufficient, though.
We don't need to automate the choice for people.

I figured it is a pain to have people do that when 95% of current users
don't need it now anyway because they have been around for >30 days.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 853-3000
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  830 Blythe Avenue
  +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026

Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> writes:

Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

I think the tips would be greatly enhanced if there was a 25% chance
that they included the output of the fortune program.

Ian

---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
TIP 57: I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I tell them the truth
and they never believe me.
-- Camillo Di Cavour

Bruce Momjian writes:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

I once again refer people to RFC 2369
<http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html&gt; about how to embed email list
management information into messages. Secondly, I would also tolerate the
"monthly reminders" that some list managers send out (e.g., GNU, Great
Bridge). At the very least, though, the tips should be preceded by a
'<dash><dash><space><newline>' sequence so that some mail readers can
strip them off in replies.

I filter out the tips anyway, so I really don't care a lot.

# for procmail users
:0 Bbf
| sed -n -e '/^---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------$/q' -e 'p'

--
Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net http://yi.org/peter-e/

oh, let me add that as a TIP :)

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Bruce Momjian writes:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

I once again refer people to RFC 2369
<http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html&gt; about how to embed email list
management information into messages. Secondly, I would also tolerate the
"monthly reminders" that some list managers send out (e.g., GNU, Great
Bridge). At the very least, though, the tips should be preceded by a
'<dash><dash><space><newline>' sequence so that some mail readers can
strip them off in replies.

I filter out the tips anyway, so I really don't care a lot.

# for procmail users
:0 Bbf
| sed -n -e '/^---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------$/q' -e 'p'

--
Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net http://yi.org/peter-e/

---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command
(send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org)

Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org

Bruce Momjian wrote:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there? This would be
especially cute for -novice, I think.

We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
about PostgreSQL can't we?

Just a thought,
Andrew.
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Andrew McMillan, e-mail: Andrew@catalyst.net.nz
Catalyst IT Ltd, PO Box 10-225, Level 22, 105 The Terrace, Wellington
Me: +64 (21) 635 694, Fax: +64 (4) 499 5596, Office: +64 (4) 499 2267

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there? This would be
especially cute for -novice, I think.

We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
about PostgreSQL can't we?

Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)

I like this idea too. How about TIP #1: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ;-)

Mike Mascari
mascarm@mascari.com

-----Original Message-----
From: The Hermit Hacker [SMTP:scrappy@hub.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Andrew McMillan
Cc: PostgreSQL-development
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there? This would be
especially cute for -novice, I think.

We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
about PostgreSQL can't we?

Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)

---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate
subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your
message can get through to the mailing list cleanly

there, added ... and even gave an attribute to you :)

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Mike Mascari wrote:

I like this idea too. How about TIP #1: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ;-)

Mike Mascari
mascarm@mascari.com

-----Original Message-----
From: The Hermit Hacker [SMTP:scrappy@hub.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Andrew McMillan
Cc: PostgreSQL-development
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

Bruce Momjian wrote:

I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
not appear?

What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there? This would be
especially cute for -novice, I think.

We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
about PostgreSQL can't we?

Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)

---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate
subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your
message can get through to the mailing list cleanly

Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org