BUG #11991: dangerous action of pg_dump

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#1Noname
tomek@rai.pl

The following bug has been logged on the website:

Bug reference: 11991
Logged by: Tomasz Kimaczynski
Email address: tomek@rai.pl
PostgreSQL version: 9.2.9
Operating system: Windows 2003,2008,2012 & FreeBSD
Description:

Recently, I realized pg_dump dangerous activity. In case when no dump is
made because of any error, created file size is 0 bytes. In case when this
file is used in simple backup procedure which make copy of dump file - 0
bytes files overwrite earlier correct dump files.
And we have no copies.
Conclusion: pg_dump can not create 0 bytes files - it should create
nothing.
I think it's important.

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#2John R Pierce
pierce@hogranch.com
In reply to: Noname (#1)
Re: BUG #11991: dangerous action of pg_dump

On 11/17/2014 1:42 PM, tomek@rai.pl wrote:

Bug reference: 11991
Logged by: Tomasz Kimaczynski
Email address:tomek@rai.pl
PostgreSQL version: 9.2.9
Operating system: Windows 2003,2008,2012 & FreeBSD
Description:

Recently, I realized pg_dump dangerous activity. In case when no dump is
made because of any error, created file size is 0 bytes. In case when this
file is used in simple backup procedure which make copy of dump file - 0
bytes files overwrite earlier correct dump files.
And we have no copies.
Conclusion: pg_dump can not create 0 bytes files - it should create
nothing.
I think it's important.

perhaps your pg_dump script should check for errors from the pg_dump
run, and if any errors, delete the erroneous dump.

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#3David G. Johnston
david.g.johnston@gmail.com
In reply to: Noname (#1)
Re: BUG #11991: dangerous action of pg_dump

tomek wrote

The following bug has been logged on the website:

Bug reference: 11991
Logged by: Tomasz Kimaczynski
Email address:

tomek@

PostgreSQL version: 9.2.9
Operating system: Windows 2003,2008,2012 & FreeBSD
Description:

Recently, I realized pg_dump dangerous activity. In case when no dump is
made because of any error, created file size is 0 bytes. In case when this
file is used in simple backup procedure which make copy of dump file - 0
bytes files overwrite earlier correct dump files.
And we have no copies.
Conclusion: pg_dump can not create 0 bytes files - it should create
nothing.
I think it's important.

Even if this were to be done there are other failure modes that will result
in partial dumps. The correct answer is to always keep the last correct
dump until the next successful dump completes. This is a minimum acceptable
practice.

Tools can make your life easier but this special case is more likely to do
harm than good if people test a quick fail mode and see their original file
remain when it should be clobbered. If anything pg_dump should error if the
target dump file already exists.

If you are talking about your own copy process than that is your
responsibility. Copying files without even rudimentary checks that the
dumped file is complete is simply being negligent. In theory you should
restore the file and run some queries before declaring it good but at
minimum file size and program return code checks are needed. Specifically
if the dump file is considerably smaller than previous versions you should
not remove the old version automatically. Zero always qualifies but even
100 meg decrease should give pause and prompt human evaluation.

David J.

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