BUG #14703: documentation bug:
The following bug has been logged on the website:
Bug reference: 14703
Logged by: Adam Sah
Email address: asah@midgard.net
PostgreSQL version: 9.6.3
Operating system: n/a
Description:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/external-pl.html
Fails to mention plv8 (aka Javascript), which is officially supported by
Amazon RDS, i.e. unquestionably a mainstream option for a large number of pg
admins, even if it's externally maintained.
Here's the URL:
https://github.com/plv8/plv8
Amazon RDS docs mentioning plv8 support:
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.html
This is important for business approvers signing off on using Postgres, who
expect to see Javascript support, and need more 'social proof' than Amazon
AWS documentation.
thanks!
adam
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On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:51 AM, <asah@midgard.net> wrote:
Here's the URL:
https://github.com/plv8/plv8
Perhaps it makes sense to add it, it is popular and has been around
for some time now.
Amazon RDS docs mentioning plv8 support:
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.htmlThis is important for business approvers signing off on using Postgres, who
expect to see Javascript support, and need more 'social proof' than Amazon
AWS documentation.
But there is no way to be sure if the version shipped with RDS has
been modified or not, or if there are restrictions applying to it so
it is hard to believe that the *actual* upstream code is supported and
if that's what is being used or not. The core Postgres engine has for
example a set of custom patches applied on top of it.
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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
wrote:
Amazon RDS docs mentioning plv8 support:
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.html
This is important for business approvers signing off on using Postgres,
who
expect to see Javascript support, and need more 'social proof' than
Amazon
AWS documentation.
But there is no way to be sure if the version shipped with RDS has
been modified or not, or if there are restrictions applying to it so
it is hard to believe that the *actual* upstream code is supported and
if that's what is being used or not. The core Postgres engine has for
example a set of custom patches applied on top of it.
I'm not sure how to interpret this followup...the original point being made
is that we seem to have a documentation oversight and someone wanting to
point out to non-technical people that PostgreSQL supports the pl/v8
language would not be able to point to this section of our documentation in
order to do so.
The secondary reasoning is a bit circular since non-techies probably don't
care too much about the fact that Amazon runs its own fork for RDS purposes
- and at the same time those same people wouldn't take Amazon's support for
pl/v8 to mean the underlying project supports it?
In any case I haven't seen any posts to general or hackers that would cause
me to question the validity of adding it to our documentation listing.
David J.
Sorry to conflate RDS, I just meant it as evidence of plv8 being
mainstream, NOT that pg docs should mention AWS in any way, which of course
is inappropriate.
Sorry for the confusion!
Adam
(via cellphone, random spelling ahead)
On Jun 12, 2017 6:18 PM, "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
wrote:
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On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Michael Paquier <
michael.paquier@gmail.com> wrote:Amazon RDS docs mentioning plv8 support:
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonRDS/latest/UserGuide/CHAP_PostgreSQL.html
This is important for business approvers signing off on using Postgres,
who
expect to see Javascript support, and need more 'social proof' than
Amazon
AWS documentation.
But there is no way to be sure if the version shipped with RDS has
been modified or not, or if there are restrictions applying to it so
it is hard to believe that the *actual* upstream code is supported and
if that's what is being used or not. The core Postgres engine has for
example a set of custom patches applied on top of it.I'm not sure how to interpret this followup...the original point being
made is that we seem to have a documentation oversight and someone wanting
to point out to non-technical people that PostgreSQL supports the pl/v8
language would not be able to point to this section of our documentation in
order to do so.The secondary reasoning is a bit circular since non-techies probably don't
care too much about the fact that Amazon runs its own fork for RDS purposes
- and at the same time those same people wouldn't take Amazon's support for
pl/v8 to mean the underlying project supports it?In any case I haven't seen any posts to general or hackers that would
cause me to question the validity of adding it to our documentation listing.David J.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:16 AM, David G. Johnston
<david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
In any case I haven't seen any posts to general or hackers that would cause
me to question the validity of adding it to our documentation listing.
I am not questioning that point. Adding a link to
https://github.com/plv8/plv8 in the list of PLs in the docs makes
perfect sense to me.
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On 6/12/17 21:35, Michael Paquier wrote:
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:16 AM, David G. Johnston
<david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:In any case I haven't seen any posts to general or hackers that would cause
me to question the validity of adding it to our documentation listing.I am not questioning that point. Adding a link to
https://github.com/plv8/plv8 in the list of PLs in the docs makes
perfect sense to me.
done
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